Wringing out the RAMI - Review & Range Report

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Mulliga

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My concealed weapons permit came in the mail yesterday and I picked up my 9mm RAMI from my FFL today. I took it out shooting (after my circuits exam, though ;p) at a local indoor range (http://www.afn.org/~guns/). I only had half an hour, so I could only run about 200 rounds through it before I had to clean up my brass and leave.

FIRST IMPRESSIONS

I bought the gun NIB for $490 after shipping and transfer fee. It came with a case, manual, 2 10-round mags, lock, snap caps, cleaning tools, and a mag loader. It's the first time I've ever bought a new handgun, so I was impressed with all the junk they give you. :)

Here it is (forgive the blurriness, all I have is a webcam):

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Though the dimensions of the RAMI are close to a Glock 26 or XD subcompact, there's no denying this is a chunky gun. The slide is about the same width as my CZ-75, but the frame is noticeably thicker (CZ-75 on left):

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This profile view shows the abbreviated barrel and grip of the RAMI vs. the CZ-75. The shorter barrel makes sitting more comfortable, and the shrunken grip drastically reduces "bend-over" type printing when carrying IWB (at least for me).

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Many parts of the gun strike me as overly wide - the hammer, the trigger guard, the beavertail, and the mag release. It handles much like a CZ-75, however, and the back and front of the frame have striations for added control. The CZ factory rubber grips that come with the RAMI are fairly thin and give you a good grip on the pistol. All in all, I was impressed with how well the gun pointed and came on target - basically as good as my full-size CZ-75.

DISASSEMBLY, INTANGIBLES, & DRY-FIRING


Disassembly is basically identical to the full-size CZ-75. The slide release is more difficult to knock out, though, but that may change with time. Fit and finish are typical CZ - the black polycoat makes the outside of the pistol uniform and businesslike, and the internals are somewhat rough.

The safety and slide release are very thin. It takes a little practice to consistently knock the safety off and on, but it's very positive and clicks into place audibly (one thing I've always liked about CZs). I recommend not using the slide release at all - better to slingshot the slide back, IMHO.

I was able to get a 2-1/2 finger grip on the gun:

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The trigger was the one weakness of the RAMI from other reviews I have read. Either I got really lucky, or CZ is making the newer RAMIs differently, because my trigger is pretty good right out of the box. Single action has a lot of takeup on the first shot and a slight amount of creep inherent with the CZ action (the hammer goes back slightly when the trigger is pressed), but the break is about as light as my CZ-75 - no 9 pound trigger here. Double action is even better, since you don't notice the creep - just one smooth pull, but heavy enough to be completely safe, even at half cock. Both trigger pulls are more than good enough for a concealed carry piece.

AT THE RANGE - MAN, I HATE LOADING SUBCOMPACT MAGS

The 9mm RAMI mags hold 10 rounds, but the 9th and 10th rounds took some incredible cajoling to fit inside - my hand was actually hurting after the range session from loading the mags. Thankfully, the RAMI itself is a pussycat to shoot- it should be, since it's about the same weight as a Glock 17. :what:

I ran a mix of Remington UMC 100-round bulk pack JHPs, Wolf FMJs, and Blazer Aluminum FMJs through the RAMI. Unfortunately, it failed to feed from the 10-round mags multiple times in the range session, and ejection was anemic. Hopefully this is just a "break-in" period, but I'm not taking any chances - in two weeks, I'll be able to take it to an outdoor range and shoot many, many more rounds through it. I'll post the results in this thread, but for now, I can't recommend a RAMI for concealed carry. :(
 
Odd. My wifes RAMI hasn't had any failures, except to feed my first time handloads... :( I can't stand the finger rest grips, but the new extended 14 round Compact mag with sleeve elimiates that.
I do like carrying my PO1, though! :cool:
 
I prefer Condition 1, and I needed something light, so the RAMI was pretty much the only game in town. If it wasn't for the fail-to-feeds, I'd be ecstatic.

It wasn't jamming on every mag of ammo; it's just that occasionally the next round would get hung up on the feedramp. I might have been limp-wristing it (admittedly, it was quite an impressive muzzle flash/blast), but I'm pretty sure that doesn't account for all those failures. My theory is that the mag springs are so tight that the round stuck at the top against the feed lips is slowing the slide enough to cause the FTF - it was very hard for me to "flick" off rounds from the top like I do with my CZ-75 mags. The gun still feels tight and the mag springs doubly so; I'm going to shoot the crap out of this thing before I give up on it. ;)
 
Of the dozen or so CZ's I've owned, my .40 S&W RAMI was the only one that wouldn't eat anything I fed it right out of the box. It was also the most difficult to shoot accurately (probably my fault). It wouldn't feed WWB hard ball. The front of the bullet (meplate) would hit the feedramp and stop. I could tap the back of the slide and the round would feed. I polished the feed ramp with some crocus cloth and jewelers rouge . Also took the barrel out of the gun and put some Pearl Drops tooth polish on the rails and ran it thru 500 hand cycles. Cleaned it up and lubed it with CLP, put 500 rounds thru it and never had another problem. I am not recomending you do this to your gun. It may void the warranty. However, it worked for me. Good luck and keep us posted.
 
Give it some quality ammo and you will be able to judge it better. S&B or
any major US brand of 9mm. MY RAMI has never given a hint of trouble.
Hope yours does better next time with different ammo.

I have about the same grip area as you do. The Extended mag makes for better grip and work on the Range, the regular mags for CCW.

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Thanks for the review. I've been looking at RAMI's for some time, and when I can afford one, it will probably be my next purchase.

You may want to load up the mags to capacity and let them sit like that for a few weeks. This will take some of the stiffness out of the mag springs. I hope it works out for you.
 
Mulliga, mark your mags and head back to the range. My CZ40 had a ton of FTF problems when I first got it, and I was pretty :fire: about it. Putting tape on one mag instantly revealed that all the failures were coming from that mag - the other (unmarked) one fed perfectly. I shipped the bad mag back to CZ, they sent a new one, and it has also been 100%. It's been a great gun, even better for the price - $300 NIB last year! A RAMI in .40 is very tempting.
 
Was over at CZ net.

They mentioned that the newer 40's had no coating on the inside of the slide surfaces. Appearantly many of the early ones had rounds hang on the bottom of the ramp, as did the one I had. Many believed the energy to strip rounds off of a fully loaded clip plus the slide friction, caused the feed failures in the first one or two rounds. The clips were a real bear to load because the mag springs are so stiff.

They noted that the 40 case could be shortened if the bullet seats further back during such a nose dive, and high pressures could result if the seating isn't checked before the round is fired.

I traded mine off, but dearly loved the ergonomics and accuracy otherwise. If CZ would do me right to adjust for the faulty first one, I would love to have one that really worked. I traded it in for a rifle.
 
Mulliga, mark your mags and head back to the range.

I wondered if one of the mags might have been faulty. I definitely wasn't paying attention since I was in such a hurry to expend 200 rounds. I'll keep track of it when I go to the range next.
 
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