Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by peacebutready, Jun 8, 2012.
Excellent information. Thanks for the post and links.
parts are really hard to find for XD's.
My problem is I'm more attracted to the XD/XDm, but want a polymer that can go through hell and still fire.
Also, we need to be concerned about mag. limitations in the future, depending on how things go late this year.
Grip angles: Glock and other
That's another thing. My first in line is a steel model with a traditional grip angle (I hope I didn't say that wrong), I wonder if going back and forth between grip angles will throw a person off too much.
Owned XD. Fine guns. Prefer the more simple, more prevalent (parts/accessories) Glock. If you can wear either out you have my envy.
What exactly is it you're having trouble finding?
Can't you just call Springfield for parts? They'll probably send you most of them for a fair price excluding trigger group and certain other parts. (Most factories want you to send in the gun for trigger group replacements.)
Now if you're meaning upgrades then yeah you're probably right there, big advantage for Glock. The XD parts are out there but they sell out faster than they restock. There seems to be a steady enough supply of aftermarket stuff for the Glock.
XD parts are super easy to find. What are you looking for? The roll pins and springs can be found at places llike midway, brownells, etc. Sears, triggers, ejectors, barrels, and really anything else can be found at pistolgear, xdguys, and powder river.
That being said there were not as many holsters but that is getting better.
Generally it won't unless you have really bizarre hands or shoot a very particular pistol to the exclusion of all others. With Glocks it seems that any new shooter who listens to instructions ends up shooting them pretty well.
There isn't really a 'traditional' grip angle, there is just the somewhat straighter angle that the 1911 uses, and a lot of people came up on those. For a lot of shooters, especially ones over 30-40, that's the way any autoloader is expected to feel. If you don't run tons of rounds through one pistol, going to one with a different grip is probably not going to noticeably affect your shooting.
And ultimately you aren't going to war, you're buying a commercially available pistol for private use. Get whatever you want, we've got a pretty good crop of current production pistols these days.
There is the link to the old XD torture test. Google search also works well for this kind of research.
Never had any problems with finding parts for an XD!
My thing is that I really like Glocks, but for whatever reason the new Gen4's give me slide bite. I don't know why, as this was never a problem before, but it was a big enough problem that I sold off my new gen 4 only a month after I bought it.
Sort of on a whim, I bought an XD. So far, that has turned out to be an excellent choice. I have ran several hundred rounds through it, and I honestly can't find anything major to complain about, and there are some things about it I like over the Glock (slide release being the big one).
I can heartily recommend either at about the same level of confidence based on experience, but for me personally the XD is proving to be the better pistol.
from what i understand from talking to people who use them for duty guns, they break the little firing pin retaining roll pin when dryfired a lot, and OEM parts aren't something you can just buy a bag of to keep around.
Powder River makes an improved striker retainer pin for the XDs.
It's a rolled spring design rather than the orignal split-pin design.
It's really only a problem if you dry fire a lot without a snap-cap or don't replace the pin with a new one after a detail strip.
But it is one of the reasons I prefer the design of the Glocks.
It comes down to a matter of preference. Both are quality firearms.
I prefer Glock for reasons already stated.
Thanks all for your responses.
If you can afford the $12000-$24000 in ammo it would take to start to find out, you can afford to replace a few small parts here and there to keep it maintained.
The whole grip angle thing fascinates me. I know people who love their 1911, hate the Glock angle, but love a Luger which is even more steep. I always found that strange.
Am I the only weird person on the planet that can switch between 1911 and Glock (at the same range session) without issue? Heck, I usually have a revolver or rifle or two with me as well.
It not working when you release the slide by pulling it back is caused by you. You're riding the slide too much.
I owned an XD40 Service, and sold it before giving it enough of a chance. If I could turn back time, I wouldn't have sold it; but now that I have, I can't bring myself to buy another. I'm not sure why. Probably a matter of pride, to be completely honest.
Frankly, I do have more faith in a G23, and I'll rest easier with the Glock, but I never, ever had a single issue with the XD.
Its a matter of preference, IMHO. My experience with each is that the differences are insignificant.
Striker retainer pin, weight/height
It's fine to replace the "striker retainer pin" with a better aftermarket one but other than that I'd like it to be extremely reliable and durable. That's my motivation for a polymer. Also motivated to try it-never had one before. I prefer my steel/alloy guns, though.
It seems the XD subcompact is heavier and taller than what I'd like. I need to check out the XD(m)'s weight/height.
Go check out Hicock45's YouTube video on the XDsc. He does an excellent comparison of the size with a sc Glock. The XD is slightly bigger, but not as much as it looks at a glance. Sorry, don't have the link handy.
I was just looking at this video the other day. Its right here:
Its the Glock 27 compared to Springfield XDsc-40.
All I can say is that my XDm 4.5 .45 has been flawless through about 1000 rounds, and I get the sense that I couldn't make it fail if I wanted to. It shoots great, it's accurate and it slings .45ACP rounds downrange. Not much bad to say there.
I've had Glocks, but I prefer this pistol.
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