toivo
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This. They don't want to be sued by some yutz who forgot to put the safety on.
Yeah, I'd Rather Have a Wrangler But...
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Personally, I originally bought the gun for the .22mag cylinder.
However after shooting it, and chronographing it, and then comparing it to the .22lr cylinder, I gave up on the .22mag.
Best .22lr comes within 100fps of slower .22mag, and accuracy of good .22lr matches or exceeds the .22mag.
At 3-4X the cost, I’ll relegate the .22mag to the rifle where it has a significant and worthwhile advantage.
However after shooting it, and chronographing it, and then comparing it to the .22lr cylinder, I gave up on the .22mag.
Best .22lr comes within 100fps of slower .22mag, and accuracy of good .22lr matches or exceeds the .22mag.
At 3-4X the cost, I’ll relegate the .22mag to the rifle where it has a significant and worthwhile advantage.
Paul R Zartman
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Anyone who buys a cheap 22 single action, shoots it, then complains, should contemplate their actual desires in the sport of firearms. Sell all your guns and go live in place that makes you feel better about your inability....
Great budget 22 single actions. I am one of the oddballs actually like them more than the Wranglers. I am not a big fan of the wrangler. I dont really care for them in 22 mag either. I dont mind the safety.... its useful and not in an odd place. Parts are easy to source direct from Heritage.
Downside is getting them dialed in right. Fixed sight versions often need to be filed or bent to get them hitting POA. For the money though they are hard to beat for a well functioning 22lr revolver. Yes the single six is much better as is the bearcat. You will definitely pay for the upgrade though. Rough rider gives you a nice plinker for around $100 if you watch for sales.
Fantastic pistols for kids or 1st time shooters. You can start them with powderless rimfire and work them into cheap bulk stuff. As stated earlier the 22 mag doesnt really give you much (frame is also zamak which is going to wear faster with 22WMR). The 16" barrels dont give you much either. If you can get one with adjustable sights it will probably be worth it as you wont run the risk of POA problems. The 9 shot versions are not that great as they dont line up with the ejector rod all that well when ejecting cases. Six shot cylinders time up pretty well.
Hard to go wrong with a Rough Rider. Ammo cost alone make the gun pay for itself. Unlike a semi auto they will shoot anything so casual plinking is cheap.
Downside is getting them dialed in right. Fixed sight versions often need to be filed or bent to get them hitting POA. For the money though they are hard to beat for a well functioning 22lr revolver. Yes the single six is much better as is the bearcat. You will definitely pay for the upgrade though. Rough rider gives you a nice plinker for around $100 if you watch for sales.
Fantastic pistols for kids or 1st time shooters. You can start them with powderless rimfire and work them into cheap bulk stuff. As stated earlier the 22 mag doesnt really give you much (frame is also zamak which is going to wear faster with 22WMR). The 16" barrels dont give you much either. If you can get one with adjustable sights it will probably be worth it as you wont run the risk of POA problems. The 9 shot versions are not that great as they dont line up with the ejector rod all that well when ejecting cases. Six shot cylinders time up pretty well.
Hard to go wrong with a Rough Rider. Ammo cost alone make the gun pay for itself. Unlike a semi auto they will shoot anything so casual plinking is cheap.
You bright up the fixed sights, which was something I was wondering about myself. I found this video, and it seems like an interesting "fix".
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So my wife likes her Heritage Christmas gift and one of the first things I did was to remove the cylinder (by putting the gun on "safe" and at half cock and removing the base pin, per instructions) to shed the orange plastic disc. I'm embarrassed of having to ask help for a problem which shouldn't be. I'm familiar with sa revolvers but I cannot get the cylinder back, no matter how much I wiggle it (being careful not to force anything). The manual explains how to remove the cylinder but not how to replace it. I've removed and replaced cylinders on my Ruger sa revolvers countless times, there being no mysteries to what should be a straight forward procedure.
So what am I doing wrong? Thanks.
So what am I doing wrong? Thanks.
toivo
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Any chance the loading gate is flopping closed on you? That has happened to me before. They don't want to stay in place on a Heritage like they do on a Ruger.
Would you like a video of me putting the cylinder back? Would that help?
ontarget
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So did you get it back together?
I couldn't think of anything that you could have been doing wrong other than maybe if your hammer was down and the bolt was up.
Or maybe if the hammer was all the way back and the hand was protruding.
SwampWolf
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Thanks for the kind offer, gobsauce, but I am grateful (and a little chagrined) to toivo for his insight: the loading gate had indeed "flopped" closed. Thanks to you both. My wife can now start pushing some lead down the throat of her new Heritage.
i bought two new hrr, one 7-8 years ago, one last year, both nine shot models. the older one i still have, it’s okay for being a cheaply made handgun, i.e. an occasional weekend plinker. the new one was lousy, got rid of it. 22wmr heats up the hrr too fast for too little result, is much better out of a rifle (of course) or ruger single six, and isn’t really a meaningful advantage of the hrr.
the ruger wrangler is simply a better piece from a better manufacturer. its free spinning cylinder and no need to cock its hammer to reload make it easier and safer.
if he had no rimfire sidearm, which one of these two revolvers would i give to my son for a week long canoe trip? the wrangler for sure.
the ruger wrangler is simply a better piece from a better manufacturer. its free spinning cylinder and no need to cock its hammer to reload make it easier and safer.
if he had no rimfire sidearm, which one of these two revolvers would i give to my son for a week long canoe trip? the wrangler for sure.
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The missus and I went to an indoor range today for the first time ever. (I used to hunt and plink decades ago.) She thought her Wrangler was loud. Hahahaha! She made a few decent groups with my Heritage carbine until it went into Alec Baldwin mode. When she pulled the hammer back, it just dropped and fired the gun. I have no idea what broke, but even if Heritage repairs it under warranty, I don't know if I'll trust this gun in the future. A shame because I love revolving rifles.
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