Discussion in 'Non-Firearm Weapons' started by hso, Sep 17, 2019.
I like it!
Seems like a useful design and a daily user.
Its not nice for moderators to throw such imagery at us of excellent craftsmanship. Certainly agree that this looks like a fine well made daily use knife.
They're the folks who make the Forschner blades I use for serious fish-cutting as well (Forschner are good quality stainless steel butcher knives...) I believe. Some of mine are nearing forty years old (I got them new...) and still working just fine...
Kydex? Why didn't they put that beautiful knife in an equally beautiful leather sheath?
With the fire starter and sheath if reminds me of the Buck Selkirk: https://www.buckknives.com/product/863-selkirk-knife/0863BRS-B/
Am I the only one who thinks that $200 is way too much for a knife with unknown steel and blade hardness? And judging from other Victorinox knives, I'm expecting cheap stainless with mediocre hardening. Would like to be proven wrong though...
Explain "cheap stainless", please.
Krupp 1.4116 and 1.4110 are nearly identical HT'd to 55-57Rc, so it certainly isn't a premium steel, but then they use this in their larger Hunter folders to good effect. $200 MSRP will be street $120-$150 probably.
I agree that they could/should have used a higher grade steel, but since the Hunters perform well I'm guessing they are basing their choices off of that.
Still, being a Scandi Bushcraft design we'll see how well it stands up to the online "testing" it will be put to.
Classic Scandi bushcraft design.
When I said "cheap stainless" I meant exactly that - cheap to buy and cheap to machine and heat treat. With an expected hardness of HRC 55-56 it will be no better than a cheap Mora (same steel), but only with a fancier handle. For that price ($120-150) I can get a better blade (CPM154), full tang, better heat treated, same build quality and still made in the EU and at the end I will be left with money for beer and a fancy firestarter. It won't be a scandi grind though, but I think that I'll be OK with it. For the same amount there are better scandi blades made, in the EU, with the same manufacturing quality, but with better heat treating - think Brusletto. I mean, for that kind of money there are far better options despite the fact, that I am a huge SAK fan.
That's what I think too!
Looks good only if I had the money lol. They need a leather sheath.
I like the design except for the jimping, which I detest.
I am guessing this is for the bushcrafters, I would think jimping on this kind of knife is maybe a bad idea. Looks like it would be a great knife for hunters.
that's the story of my feelings on all swiss army knives. Why don't they use a better steel? at least in their main blades? (I know there have been a couple knives with better steel, but they are the exception, not the rule.)
What would they economically or functionally gain other than marketing material?
Victorinox makes millions upon millions of knives using a soft, easy to maintain nearly rustproof steel. What they lack in edge holding they make up for in ease of sharpening. There are plenty of makers that use better steel. However, the SAK just works.
That said, for 200 bones there are better hard use knives out there. Love the design though.
It needs a gut hook.
And a lower price.
Even $150 it will be pricey unless the reviews are over the moon.
It'll be compared to the Mora Garberg with a street price in the $60 range. I'd have to see one in person, but my 1st reaction is that I like the Mora better for the price. If the street price on this is closer to the Mora then maybe.
It can't get under $100, but it isn't going to be expected to. The Mora has a moulded on grip vs. the micarta of the Victorinox which takes several more sreps and some hand finish.
As a user the Garbeg is a better value.
I understand that. Not only does the Victorinox have a better grip, I like the sheath much better too. I'd pay more for it than the Mora. I'm just saying I'd have to see it in person and read some reviews on it before I'd decide how much more I'd be willing to pay. That wasn't meant to be critical, just pointing out that when we start seeing online and youtube reviews it is going to be compared to the Mora.
The garberg needs the rubber over molded its to slick with out it.
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