Yet another reason why society, young kids, is going down the tube.

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Red ink falling out of favor with teachers


WASHINGTON (AP) -- Of all the things that can make a person see red, school principal Gail Karwoski was not expecting parents to get huffy about, well, seeing red.

At Daniels Farm Elementary School in Trumbull, Connecticut, Karwoski's teachers grade papers by giving examples of better answers for those students who make mistakes. But that approach meant the kids often found their work covered in red, the color that teachers long have used to grade work.

Parents objected. Red writing, they said, was "stressful." The principal said teachers were just giving constructive advice and the color of ink used to convey that message should not matter. But some parents could not let it go.

So the school put red on the blacklist. Blue and other colors are in.

"It's not an argument we want to have at this point because what we need is the parents' understanding," Karwoski said. "The color of the message should not be the issue."

In many other schools, it's black and white when it comes to red. The color has become so symbolic of negativity that some principals and teachers will not touch it.

"You could hold up a paper that says 'Great work!' and it won't even matter if it's written in red," said Joseph Foriska, principal of Thaddeus Stevens Elementary in Pittsburgh.

He has instructed his teachers to grade with colors featuring more "pleasant-feeling tones" so that their instructional messages do not come across as derogatory or demeaning.

"The color is everything," said Foriska, an educator for 31 years.

At Public School 188 in Manhattan, 25-year-old teacher Justin Kazmark grades with purple, which has emerged as a new color of choice for many educators, pen manufacturers confirm.

"My generation was brought up on right or wrong with no in between, and red was always in your face," Kazmark said. "It's abrasive to me. Purple is just a little bit more gentle. Part of my job is to be attuned to what kids respond to, and red is not one of those colors."
Purple's popularity

Three top pen and marker manufacturers -- Bic, Pilot Pen and Sanford, which produces Papermate and Sharpie -- are making more purple pens in response to rising sales. School leaders and teachers are largely driving that demand, company representatives say.

"They're trying to be positive and reinforcing rather than being harsh," said Robert Silberman, Pilot Pen's vice president of marketing. "Teachers are taking that to heart."

The disillusionment with red is part of broader shift in grading, said Vanessa Powell, a fifth-grade teacher at Snowshoe Elementary School in Wasilla, Alaska.

"It's taken a turn from 'Here's what you need to improve on' to 'Here's what you've done right,"' Powell said. "It's not that we're not pointing out mistakes, it's just that the method in which it's delivered is more positive."

Her students, she said, probably would tune out red because they are so used to it. So she grades with whatever color -- turquoise blue, hot pink, lime green -- appeals to them.

That is a sound approach, said Leatrice Eiseman, a color specialist with a background in psychology who has written several books on the ties between colors and communication.

"The human eye is notoriously fickle and is always searching for something new to look at it," she said. "If you use a color that has long been used in a traditional way, you can lose people's attention, especially if they have a history of a lot of red marks on their papers."

Purple may be rising in popularity, Eiseman said, because teachers know it is a mix of blue and red. As she put it: "You still have that element of the danger aspect -- the red -- but it's kind of subtle, subliminal. It's in the color, rather than being in your face."

In Charles County, Maryland, reading and writing specialist Janet Jones helps other teachers lead their lessons. The students at Berry Elementary School in Waldorf, Maryland, use colored pencils to edit each other's papers. By the time teachers get to grading, Jones said, the color they use isn't that important.

"I don't think changing to purple or green will make a huge difference if the teaching doesn't go along with it," Jones said. "If you're just looking at avoiding the color red, the students might not be as frightened, but they won't be better writers."
 
FACE-PALM! :banghead:

***, I mean really? The purpose for using red is so that it is distinguishable from the student's writing. If the student writes in pencil, dark colors blend in, making it harder to spot mistakes. Purple will be just as bad.

Red was chosen as a color that both stands out, and isnt invisible.... otherwise we'd have yellow!
 
One of my College Profs used green, but said he did because he had some degree of color-blindness and did not see red very well. Not sure if true, but it made a good story.
 
It's to the point where I read things like this and all I can do is chuckle. I mean, really, if this is where we are then we are so far gone it's too late to worry about it.
 
Hmmm, brings to mind the saying..."where are we going, and why are we in this handbasket?"
 
They should use pink so the spoiled children will get used to seeing pink slips later.
 
God principals of these schools would have hated me if I had actually followed in my fathers footsteps and become a teacher. Really really makes me want to start learning a ton of stuff about every subject so I can home school my kids. And yeah they'd get red ink.
 
This story has been making the rounds for at least 6 months. Sad though. Can't hurt those kid's feelings. Before long, everyone will get the same grade regardless of work performed.

Greg
 
Don't blame students for this problem. We aren't the ones demanding "politically correct" and "nonoffensive" ink colors.

Blame the parents. Surely they have something better to do than gripe about what color pens the teachers are using. Teaching their kids to write well comes to mind.

Also blame the school admins and teachers, who are too spineless to stand up to these imbecilic parents.

That is a sound approach, said Leatrice Eiseman, a color specialist with a background in psychology...
"a color specialist with a background in psychology"??? :(
 
So what? Red is traditionally associated with danger, harm, and negativity. If a teacher is making corrections in something other than red, who cares? If an elementary school kid does better because his teacher grades in purple ink, then more power to them.
 
Heaven forbid we actually tell people when they have made a mistake, that might make them "feel bad". After all, school is about feeling good, not about learning right?
 
look at the bright side though. the principals and teachers are RESPONDING to the wishes of parents, regardless of how stupid they are and how much they disagree.

that seems far better than the alternative, where principals push some social agenda despite the wishes of parents.
 
I had an English teacher senior year in high school who refused to use red to correct papers. She said that red subliminally means "stop," and she used green to encourage the subliminal message of "go." Her point was that she didn't want the marks on the page to be the end.

And before you say anything, let me tell you that Terri (I kept in touch with her after graduation, so she allowed me to call her this) was not what you are thinking. She kept a Smith & Wesson Model 65 at home to take care of problems, and was a very good shotgunner.
 
Do any of you folks have kids in school????????

My second grader is doing work now I did in 4th grade. Her and my Kindergarden son are leaning word and excel on the computer, they have individual computer classes for 30 minutes each day, and an hour of computer lab every week as a special.

My daughter just spent 4 days taking the second grade BOARDS to see if she will move to third grade!!!!!!


We have tough standards backed up with testing in our public school that exceed the no child left behind act.

The teacher still uses red ink, but what the heck difference does it make, my daughter has homework every night and has to study for a math, reading composition, and spelling test every week.

The grading scale is 75-83% is a C
84-93% = B
94-100% = A.

This is tougher than the scale I had in College and Grad school.
 
I don't know. That sort of rigor might produce good students, but will it produce healthy kids?

I mean, when can kids just be kids nowadays? Kick back, relax, play games, hang out?
 
Not surprised this is an issue as it doesn't take much to rile this crowd up.

It's been proven for a long long long time that colors have a large impact on reactions and emotion. There are agressive colors and passive colors. If someone has done some work to understand a better way to convey a message to students, that's a good thing. It's not dumbing folks down. It's not congratulating poor or substandard behavior. It's attempting to convey information as effectively as possible.

The colors that are used to paint rooms in hospitals, offices, etc. are all designed due to their effect on people. This is not new news and it's not the end of life as we know it.
 
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