You got a Glock?

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Yo Mama

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Knife that is!?!? I'm looking at them, and they look pretty good for the price. How do they fair vs. the k-bars, and others like Buck Nighhawks?

Also, do the Glocks only come in models 78 and 81? What is the difference between the two?
 
they look pretty good for the price.

Good for what? There are different knives for different uses just like different firearms.

What do you actually intend to do with it?
 
Very sturdy knives. Neat sheath. There are two models (81 with saw teeth on the back edge, 78 without) and they come in a 2 or three handle/sheath colors.

Edge grind on the two I have is a bit haphazard but that can be fixed with a stone and some time. They take a decent edge if you want to work at it. The metal sharpens easily but it will take some time to get the edge geometry fixed.

That's about the long and short of it. There's nothing else that stands out that I can tell.

The two I have were free and I wouldn't have actually paid to buy them although that's more to do with my not needing a knife of that genre than their price, I suppose.
 
Just One

I have exactly one Glock field knife.

It is the only knife I own on which I've never been able to establish a decent cutting edge.

The handle, unhappily, is round but not terribly grippy.

It is probably the best crowbar knife I own. I do believe I could pry open a car door with it and do little damage to it, if any.

So, yes, I have one of those. I won't have another.

Odds are, despite my aversion to selling knives, it will be one of the few I ever sell or trade.

Now, if I ever need to dig a trench, and I need a really terrible shovel, I already have a cheap Bowie knife that's larger than the Glock.

 
So reviews are strong knife, but lousy edge. I really don't know why I need it, more just want yet another knife. ;)
 
Meh

I am very suspicious of the quality of any knife for which its maker does not release (will not tell the public) what kind of steel is used in the blade - the first, most fundamental thing you want to know about a knife, after the general shape/design! I've searched high and low on the net and blade forums before and no one seems to know for sure even what the damned thing is made from. I have one, and it seems functional enough for more robust chores - whether it will hold an edge, I have no idea, as I haven't really used it. So I chalk it up as about the same, or just a smidge higher on the quality chart than a Gerber, which ain't very high. Gonna sell it. I like to know what each knife I own is made of.
 
Dr.-the only thing I could find was spring steel. I know little about steels, so I'm assuming this is fine for a beat up knife that you have no compasion for.
 
I have one. I got it for S.O.-ing a GSSF match a few years ago. It was either the knife or a Glock magazine and I don't have a Glock (pistol).

I've never tried to sharpen it. I keep it in the pickup. It probably is good for that. It really looks like it would be hard to damage even through "extreme" use, but wouldn't be a good regular use knife.
 
"Spring steel" is meaningless.

Without specifying the steel it could be anything.

When a company won't cite a known steel you should assume one of two things. Either they select the steel from run to run based on price within a set of very broad parameters OR they're marketing a more common steel as something special.
 
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I've been curious for a long time as to what steel they use. All I've heard is spring steel or slow rusting carbon steel (wat)

Wikipedia recently stated it is 1095, but there are no citations that back it up. (only one linked back to glocks website which says phosphate treated spring steel. 55 HRC
 
Ok, so big fixed blade, that's better quality, with around 40 dollars to spend?

Am I destined for another KBar?
 
I got one a while back at a show for 15 bucks.
They're hard to break but their edge isn't anything to brag about.
The finsh on mine wore off pretty easy with some basic use and it started to rust pretty good too. So, I figure it's some sort of carbon steel.
Don't really use it for much of anything anymore to be honest, just kinda sits in my closet.
 
I ignore meaningless marketing hype words like, surgical, high carbon, extreme,and tactical.

Tell me the steel and the rockwell.

Yo Mamma, look at Ka bar or Becker.

Just my .o2
 
Alternatives?

Usual suspects.

Ka-Bar, Ontario, Becker, RAT.

Wouldn't mind having a RAT, myself. Don't have one yet.

 
I have two 78s. Got kinda of on a kick. Good price. The black one had a good edge from the factory. Nice and light. Saw an OD green one and bought it as an impuse. Dull as a hoe. Went at it over and over with my Lansky (which I no longer favor by the way) and still could not overcome the inherent geometry...narrow blade, very thick stock. I most recently took up convexing with the sandpaper and mousepad method and I was able to get a better edge...still not great. Convexing a narrow thick piece of stock like that results is a more rounded convex profie.

Geometry and steel. It would be terrible for woodcraft although I will say i bet it batons well. I don't baton, I have an axe. It would pry very well. It would be a good toolbox knife. It is really more of a bayonet than a utility knife.

Currently, my OD green Glock 78 field knife is my "loner knife"...that should tell you something.

Get a real for sure Rat Cutlery (ESEE Rowen, not Ontario) for twice the price and you'll have 10 times the knife. 1095 steel...hardened to 58 I think...they shout the steel and their hardness (don't quote me on the 58) from the rooftops and the full flat grind is a great geometry for their .188" thick stock. Very wide blades. The come in very stout 3", 4", and 6". Their 5" is a sabre grind, .25" thick and is more of a downed pilot escape/survival knife than an outdoor knife...it is a beast...but folks love them too.
 
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I have a Glock knife and consider it a poor choice for most uses. My preference in your price range would be a Buck 102, 105, or 119 depending on how big you want to go.

I have a Rowen Rat 3, but it's in the $100 range as is the Bark River Woodscraft. The Bark River is a small knife, about 7" overall, but I carry and use it a lot. I haven't wrung out the Rat 3. First impression is that it doesn't hold an edge as well as the Bark River or my Bucks.
 
I would agree that Buck offerings in the same price range and the Glock 78 are very good choices. Buck is back offering very good products. Their Chinese experiment, I believe is over. The problem with Chinese is inconsistancy, not always quality. Some Chinese steel is just about as good as it can get and some is very, very bad...but you never know which one it's gonna be. I believe that Buck suffered from that for awhile.
 
It is the only knife I own on which I've never been able to establish a decent cutting edge.
Went at it over and over with my Lansky (which I no longer favor by the way) and still could not overcome the inherent geometry...narrow blade, very thick stock. I most recently took up convexing with the sandpaper and mousepad method and I was able to get a better edge...still not great. Convexing a narrow thick piece of stock like that results is a more rounded convex profie.
You're gonna have to get a coarse stone and really take some metal off to get the edge geometry fixed. Once that's done it will take a good edge.

I've used a file on some similarly designed knives to get the general edge geometry set up before beginning work with a sharpener.

You've diagnosed the problem correctly--thick stock, narrow blade.
 
I own both the saw back for about two years and the model 78 without for about a week. I like both but you do have to acknowledge there limitations. It is not a good camp knife. Blade profile is to thick and does not slice well. I tried to clean fish with it and while it worked it was cumbersome and not really efficient. I ended up buying the model seventy eight because I did not want the serrations. For the purposes i have this knife it is well suited. I have it as a truck tool box knife the one with the serrations. I do not care if it is beaten up scratched and abused. I bought the one without serrations for the same purpose as a backup last ditch knife that I do not care if it is abused used and lost. It its strong do to its use of soft steel. It sharpens easily but the profile is wrong for everyday use. As a knife that will break bands off of crates, stab various items of variable resistances, and cut rope and the such it will work. For cleaning fish skinning game and neat work it is not the tool, carry something else as I carry my RC3 for such type work or my fallkniven F1. The glock is a backup tool and foremost weapon when I cannot carry a pistol. However there are better knives that suit that bill also such as one of my favorites the SOG gov tac. However for 20-30 bucks you cannot beat what you get, a well made strong knife that has a good grip, excellent sheath, and light weight so you will actually carry it and have it when you need it. No it will not hold an edge for days on end but will do for a workable amount of time. It will sharpen easily. You can put confidence in the fact that it will not break on you outside gross abuse. Finally you won't feel nearly as bad if you have to use it and it gets lost in the river or something. Your only out of 30 bucks.
 
It's a decent thrower. I wouldn't regularly throw most decent knives, though I confess I do believe it's a good skill to have. Just not as important as many other ways to spend time.

J
 
Don't pay $40 for the Glock knife if your paying that much get the Kabar do an Internet search and you can find either of the G knives for around $20

Heres a laugh for everyone:

A local military supply shop around here has an "Austrian fighting knife" for $138.99
they claim it's from 1968 (maybe earlier recalling from memory) and that it was standard issue for Austrian army

Its a freaking Glock knife thats a bit beat up and I bet 99.9% of my yearly income that it's NOT that old nor military issue.

Whoever sold it to them really SOLD it to em with that story.
 
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