Your opinion bout "Mannlicher"-stocks +more questions

[SprayAndPray]

Hi new member here. In a few months i will try to get a licence for a hunting rifle, i had a look at Steyr´s site and i really like the Mannlicher Classic model (full stock) so now i have a few questions about these rifles.

Are these good rifles?

What do you think about rifles with "Mannlicher"-stocks, what are the pros and cons?

How does Mannlicher compare to Sauer rifles, thinking about accuracy and how the action works? (Sauer has 2 models with similar stocks, s90/s202 "stutzen")

Are the Sauers a better choice?

Does Mauser have rifles with this type of stock (brand new rifles i mean)?

Are the Mausers a better choice than Sauer or Mannlicher?


Ok more questions..

How good accuracy and range can i expect from a 20inch standard barrel? (in general, have´nt decieded on caliber yet, but 6.5x55 and .308 sounds good to me). Can i use a rifle like this for any type of long range 5-600yards+ shooting with good accuracy (for an off the shelf, midrange priced rifle that is)?

 

[boerseun]

The difference in stock is a personal preference and does not really influence reliability, accuracy or ability as a whole.
I like the full stock type rifles - sometimes called Mannlicher.

Also look at the CZ range of full stock rifles. They are cheaper and dead nuts reliable/accurate.
For a really long range caliber, I'd go with a 6.5mm cartridge of sorts. The bullets tend to be more slippery and less affected by wind at range. .308 is a good choice as well - but it lacks the long range ability that the 6.5 class of cartridges tend to have.

 

[pinotguy]

Absolutely LOVE the Mannlicher-style stocks. As boerseun noted - it is a purely cosmetic feature. For a long time I've thought about a Mannlicher-style carbine in a cool, obscure European caliber.

 

[Rangr44]

http://www.gunsamerica.com/97686711...emington_M_Seven_Custom_Mannlicher_7mm_08.htm

http://www.gunsamerica.com/97687837...GTON_MODEL_SEVEN_MANLICHER_KS_223_CALIBER.htm

 

[browningguy]

The Steyr is a really fine rifle, you won't be unhappy with it. I happen to love Mannlicher stocked rifles just for the looks. They are not considered to be as inherently accurate as a 1/2 stock rifle because the thin wood on the forend "may" be subject to more warping and could potentially touch the barrel. They also more often than not have shorter barrels, 19-21" being the norm.

To be honest there isn't much competition to the Stey, a few semi custom builders in Europe with high dollar Mauser actions are worth considering. I personally don't like the CZ stock as I find it too club-like for me, it's ok for a production gun but nowhere near as svelte as the Steyr. However a couple of people have found some really nice wood under the factory finish, and re-worked the stock to be trimmer. Same for the Ruger RSI's, mine is in .308 and while a decent rifle the stock is not as well done as the Styer.

 

[ReadyontheRight]

I am a fairly low-end shooter, but I really like the look and feel of the Ruger RSI. I also like the Ruger M77 RSI. They both have a great, short-barrel feel.

 

[skeeter1]

I'm partial to Mannlicher stocks

What do you think about rifles with "Mannlicher"-stocks, what are the pros and cons?

Pros: I've alway found them quite handsome, generally shorter-barreled rifles. The Ruger M77 International is one of my favorites.

Cons: Something I heard from my dad, but have never been able to confirm, is that Mannlicher stocks are prone to react to changes in humidity and that might affect accuracy.

In any event, I'd love to have one.

 

[270Win]

I like them also; there was a Mannlicher stocked 10/22 that was particularly handsome... !

 

[sefus]

I happen to own a mannlicher 10/22, next to my Savage .410/.22 over under, it is my purdiest firearm.

 

[270Win]

Any pics?

 

[Dionysusigma]

I never thought they looked all that good.

Apparently I'm in the minority, though.

 

[critter]

OK you guys, knock it off already! See, there is a Steyr full stock in 7mm Mauser (used at a good price) in my local gun shop that I have been eyeing. You guys are upping the temptation level! Grrrr. Resistance is waning.

 

[Chuck R.]

I’ve got 2 Mannlicher stocked rifles, a Steyr Mannlicher in 30-06 and a Remington Mod 7 in .350 Rem Mag.

Both have free floated barrels and both are pretty accurate. I think the design is a holdover from early military designs, but it’s mostly cosmetic. I have seen my father-in-law use his as a walking stick quite a few times while hunting Chamios, so in his case it does serve a purpose.

Chuck

 

[Onmilo]

Bedding the action, free floating the barrel except for a pressure pad at the muzzle and sealing the forearm with bedding compound removes any accuracy issues with full length forends.

I like a 22" to 24" barrel Mannlicher but that's me.

20" barrel short rifles and 500 meter shooting are two things that do not go together.
Full stock hunting carbines are generally perceived by European hunters to be utilized at ranges less than 250 meters.

.308 Winchester is available everywhere in the USA.