If you want to shoot more and use surplus ammo, forget the M48 and go with the mosin. The mosin is not a delicate rifle, you don't need to worry about knocking it around. There is still a good supply of Mosin ammo and its still as cheap as anything you can get. If you reload or want to buy new ammo at today's prices, the m48 is a great little 8mm.
Yugo M48 8mm Mauser?
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Great rifle, great caliber. But equally great and much less expensive rifle and ammo combo is the Mosin Nagant. Just as proven in combat too.
I love both rifles. But 8mm surplus is rare, leaving you with just commercial new ammo, which sort of defeats the purpose...
I love both rifles. But 8mm surplus is rare, leaving you with just commercial new ammo, which sort of defeats the purpose...
To tactilkel, I have a nice Stevens Model 200 in .308, I agree great rifles for the money. However, I'm not necessarily looking for sub MOA accuracy. Just a good tough milsurp bolt action with good accuracy. Maybe to shoot from atop a roof without having to worry about knocking a scope off if I bump it or even drop it. And cheap ammo IS an important factor. I've also looked at the Arisaka Type 99. If only the darn ammo wasn't so expensive. I was originally planning to use my Sporterized Lee Enfield, but ammo was just too high to stock up on in any quantity. I honestly do not regret trading it for my Norinco Type 56 SKS one bit (don't worry, the .303 was made in America by savage decreasing the value, it was retrofitted with aftermarket parts, further decreasing the value, and the stock was dinged and scratched up badly, so I got a good deal) Btw, I actually like the Mosins Sights pretty well.
With whatever respect may be due, you're kinda sounding like a confused Mall Ninja here.
If you want to play with a surplus rifle, by all means enjoy yourself.
The bits about your "team" using it while you're "on patrol" and potentially shooting it from rooftops in any kind of a defensive role are silly & unnecessary.
If you want a serious defensive gun, get one.
The Mosin is a poor choice for such uses.
Surplus rifles are fun, and can be very accurate.
I have three Yugomauser variants & three Mosins.
None would I use for serious purposes in the scenarios you mention, and a couple of the rifles shoot very well.
You give the appearance of either a naive nimrod or a joker.
It's quite possible to intelligently dscuss and enjoy military surplus guns without projecting either.
Denis
If you want to play with a surplus rifle, by all means enjoy yourself.
The bits about your "team" using it while you're "on patrol" and potentially shooting it from rooftops in any kind of a defensive role are silly & unnecessary.
If you want a serious defensive gun, get one.
The Mosin is a poor choice for such uses.
Surplus rifles are fun, and can be very accurate.
I have three Yugomauser variants & three Mosins.
None would I use for serious purposes in the scenarios you mention, and a couple of the rifles shoot very well.
You give the appearance of either a naive nimrod or a joker.
It's quite possible to intelligently dscuss and enjoy military surplus guns without projecting either.
Denis
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AethelstanA:
Thanks for the comparison with Romanian or Czech ammo.
I should not have based by opinion on just "Yugo" surplus.
Thanks for the comparison with Romanian or Czech ammo.
I should not have based by opinion on just "Yugo" surplus.
lefteyedom
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Logistic wins wars.
Stick with the Mosin's, you don't want to be sorting out ammo when the Zombies charge the compound. :banghead:
As for the 8X57 ammo "problem" with the 48 Yugo, rebarrel it to 308 and be done with it.
Just remember to do a realty check from time to time. Good relations with ones neighbors is more helpful in a time of crisis that the 3th or 4th rifle in the safe. Just saying
Stick with the Mosin's, you don't want to be sorting out ammo when the Zombies charge the compound. :banghead:
As for the 8X57 ammo "problem" with the 48 Yugo, rebarrel it to 308 and be done with it.
Just remember to do a realty check from time to time. Good relations with ones neighbors is more helpful in a time of crisis that the 3th or 4th rifle in the safe. Just saying
Dain Bramage
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DPris: Nimrod is a mighty Biblical warrior, hunter, and king. How nice of you to compliment the OP.
AethelstanAegen
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No worries, I didn't have a lot of luck with the Yugo ammo either (which you'd think would work well with a rifle from the same country of origin) but I may have gotten a bad batch. I wish I could find more of the Romanian stuff as it proved quite accurate.
Dain Bramage
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Just goes to show, what has more resonance in America, millenia of biblical studies, art history, and culture, or one pop reference?
According to Wikipedia (yeah, I know) it started when one Bugs Bunny cartoon has the furry titular character sarcastically call Elmer Fudd a "Nimrod" (you know, great hunter), and thousands of years of history are out the window. Everyone decides Nimrod sounds kind of goofy, and must be a synonym for "doofus".
Dain Bramage
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Hey, everyone needs a hobby.
Also, I'm partial to the M30J Yugo heavy ball in 7.62x54R. I've also liked the Yugo counterpart in 8mm, but I've found that later years (70's-80's) are better than earlier (50's). It's been more accurate in my M48B than the lighter Czech silver-tip rounds.
I also have about 1K left of Turk from when it was cheap and plentiful. It's more temperamental, but still accurate and a hoot to shoot. Unfortunately, the heyday of milsurp 8mm seems to be over, and picking and choosing ammo has been replaced by grabbing anything you can get.
Also, I'm partial to the M30J Yugo heavy ball in 7.62x54R. I've also liked the Yugo counterpart in 8mm, but I've found that later years (70's-80's) are better than earlier (50's). It's been more accurate in my M48B than the lighter Czech silver-tip rounds.
I also have about 1K left of Turk from when it was cheap and plentiful. It's more temperamental, but still accurate and a hoot to shoot. Unfortunately, the heyday of milsurp 8mm seems to be over, and picking and choosing ammo has been replaced by grabbing anything you can get.
This thread made me laugh. A lot. You guys are too much.
Now, I'm going to go re-count my MRE's and Potassium Iodide tablet expiration dates and check if I've rotated my water supplies recently.
(I'm only partly kidding, because I did those things last weekend.)
Hey, it helps pass the time.
Now, I'm going to go re-count my MRE's and Potassium Iodide tablet expiration dates and check if I've rotated my water supplies recently.
(I'm only partly kidding, because I did those things last weekend.)
Hey, it helps pass the time.
I love my Yugo M 48A and i got enough ammo for my kids to shoot it. The Privi Partizan 196 gr SP is hard to beat for taking game. THe surplus ammo of 8 mm is now gone.
If i have to get a bolt action , the M 39 is hard to beat. ANd the ammo are still affordable and plentiful. You shouldnt have problems finding them at sgammo.com
If i have to get a bolt action , the M 39 is hard to beat. ANd the ammo are still affordable and plentiful. You shouldnt have problems finding them at sgammo.com
To Dpris: I'm sorry, but I AM 100% serious. I mean I like to have a little fun with it, and sometimes I do have fantasies like when I went off to talking about north Korean paratroopers, but other than that, no, no I was being serious. I find it amusing you don't believe any of those scenarios are realistic. You are obviously not a prepper.
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Mustn't forget C. Thomas Howell, Jennifer Grey...and most importantly, Chuck Norris.
If it isn't SHTF, are we changing it to ESTACD? Wait, just wait, it'll happen.
Couldn't help it.
AP,
I'm enough of a "prepper" to understand & realize the need to have certain things stockpiled for certain eventualities, but I'm not enough of a "prepper" to base any of it on teams & patroling, and certainly not with long-outdated guns using questionable surplus ammunition.
I have evaluated certain realities as well as certain possibilities.
I have sufficient long guns to cover short, medium, and longer range uses, and reliable ammunition stocks to be used in them.
None will be used by a "team" (I wouldn't count much on a team that relied on a Mosin, and certainly not one I had to provide for it), none will be used "on patrol" (what exactly do you figure to be patroling?), and none are antiquated designs or decades old ammunition that may or may not ignite, or shoot worth a damn.
If you're basing your projected doomsday scenarios on a Mosin, so you can buy relatively cheap 1970s surplus ammuntion & shoot it from rooftops to save your hide, you need to wake up & face reality.
And I say that as the owner of a 1940 modified Mosin that (with a scope that I would NOT drop off a roof) shoots a little over an inch at 100 yards with good commercial loads & just under two inches at 100 yards with that 1970s ammo.
Un-modified rifles here won't do that well.
On the other hand, my 24/47 Yugomauser has gone under an inch, unmodified, with iron sights, at 100 yards, with new PRVI Partizan stuff, and has outshot my scoped Weatherby Vanguard.
The Mosin's a classic battle rifle, but it's an awkward design with a short bolt that provides inadequate leverage for best efficiency, and an extremely inconvenient safety.
I like all of mine, but they would never be on the doomsday list for survival purposes.
Too many far better choices.
I was hoping you were kidding. Guess not.
Denis
I'm enough of a "prepper" to understand & realize the need to have certain things stockpiled for certain eventualities, but I'm not enough of a "prepper" to base any of it on teams & patroling, and certainly not with long-outdated guns using questionable surplus ammunition.
I have evaluated certain realities as well as certain possibilities.
I have sufficient long guns to cover short, medium, and longer range uses, and reliable ammunition stocks to be used in them.
None will be used by a "team" (I wouldn't count much on a team that relied on a Mosin, and certainly not one I had to provide for it), none will be used "on patrol" (what exactly do you figure to be patroling?), and none are antiquated designs or decades old ammunition that may or may not ignite, or shoot worth a damn.
If you're basing your projected doomsday scenarios on a Mosin, so you can buy relatively cheap 1970s surplus ammuntion & shoot it from rooftops to save your hide, you need to wake up & face reality.
And I say that as the owner of a 1940 modified Mosin that (with a scope that I would NOT drop off a roof) shoots a little over an inch at 100 yards with good commercial loads & just under two inches at 100 yards with that 1970s ammo.
Un-modified rifles here won't do that well.
On the other hand, my 24/47 Yugomauser has gone under an inch, unmodified, with iron sights, at 100 yards, with new PRVI Partizan stuff, and has outshot my scoped Weatherby Vanguard.
The Mosin's a classic battle rifle, but it's an awkward design with a short bolt that provides inadequate leverage for best efficiency, and an extremely inconvenient safety.
I like all of mine, but they would never be on the doomsday list for survival purposes.
Too many far better choices.
I was hoping you were kidding. Guess not.
Denis
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Looks like everyone has the same answer, and we're drifting into prepper-ville debates. Let's call it "answered."
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