Zombies are invading... our shooting culture!?

[Zaydok Allen]

(be true to yourself if your seriously like THAT get help thats paranoia)

Who told you to say that???? TELL ME!!!!

 

[red-demon652]

Hey come on guys look justin is rite the antis are looking and seeing mainly whats on the news. Guns in murder,robbing,gangs,wars,ect. The news you watch and sports channels don't cover trap shooting,fclass,or pistol comp. There r dedicated channels for our sport but they as in antis dont watch them. Let alone see you at your local gun range shooting a zombie target or a box of zmax ammo. And id like to remind all of us that the zmax was a limited edition article,hornady isn't producing them forever. Just a short period and was only for a joke/novelty item.

 

[Brockak47]

People always seem to over think stuff, it's zombie stuff, who cares. It doesn't hurt anyone does it...some people should just lighten up and not be wound so tight.

 

[Patriotme]

I enjoy the occasional zombie movie or horror story but I think it's really gone overboard in the shooting world....especially the gun blogs.
Not everyone is a shooter or knows shooters. Their opinions are influenced on what they see and a lot of them are seeing a weird zombie fixation.
A few weeks ago my daughter told me that a teacher was discussing the 2nd Amendment and mentioned that some people owned guns for defense, recreation and some people think that zombies are coming. Now I don't believe that teachers are always informed or intelligent but obviously some people are getting the wrong message about a tongue in cheek kind of joke like the zombie apocaplyse.
Some will no doubt think it's no big deal and it doesn't matter.
I have to ask them if it matters in pop culture (especially movies and TV) when the gun owners are always portrayed as stupid, negligent or criminals? How about when the hunters are drunk?
Pop culture is all some people know about a topic. It's not that big of a deal to me but I wish that the more professional blogs would leave the topic alone.

 

[Ragnar Danneskjold]

If the zombie thing gets someone who might not have thought about shooting, to consider a range trip, it's worth it.

And as a shooter already, if I'm looking at two boxes of identical ammo, one with zombies and one without, if the zombie box got me to chuckle and pick it, the marketing guys did their jobs. Good for the company. It's a harmless marketing ploy meant to give you a laugh and maybe buy some ammo (that is good ammo already). And it just might get someone to say "Hah, shooting sounds like fun".

So what's the harm? Try not to take things so seriously as to miss the fun in things. Shooting is fun. This could make it more fun for more people. Is that bad?

 

[we are not amused]

I think we get too wrapped up in what the anti-gun nuts think of us. They hate us, aren't likely to change their minds, and I see no reason to live in fear of what they think.

The Main Stream News Media is anti-gun. I think it is tattooed on their soul somewhere. They will lie if they have to say bad things about us, if a zombie themed shooting ever does occur, we will get the blame anyway, so why worry about it.

In the late 1970's, I was worried about a nuclear war that would destroy civilization. I got interested in guns to survive Nuclear Armageddon. I also took up blacksmithing as a useful trade to have. Fortunately by the mid eighties, the possibility of nuclear war was subsiding, but my interest in firearms and blacksmithing remained.
If young people get interested in guns through the zombie craze, then it is a good thing. I have used the Zombie Apocalypse to get my nephews interested in guns and basic survival skills. Nothing extreme, just how to make a fire, shelter and find your way in the woods. Boy Scout stuff. In return they introduced me to the Japanese anime "High School of the Dead" and I got them reading Larry Correia's Monster Hunter International books.

I think getting people interested in guns is a good thing, and far outweighs what people who already hate us thinks.

 

[Fishslayer]

I don't mind the adoption of zombie targets and even zombie matches since it's just a modernization of playing cowboys and indians or soldier, but going so far as to market shooting products based on the zombie entertainment wave just puzzles me. While I don't understand how it can be economically practical to sell ammunition and gun finishes I have to agree that if it looks stupid, but works, it ain't stupid

While I wouldn't really buy into any of the zombie stuff, it's good for a laugh. They've started carrying bleeding zombie targets at the range I go to. Some of us were discussing and the conversation evolved to a straight faced discussion of zombie types, how to kill them, the rules of zombie engagement, etc etc. Instead of trying to keep a straight face we were striving to put on the most serious and matter of fact tone we could manage...

Fun!

 

[velojym]

Since I hang around on a zombie-themed forum, I'm pretty certain that the shooters amongst us are all pretty decent folk. For us, it's a tongue-in-cheek way to discuss preps without alarming the "sheeple" so much. The non-thinkers just write us off as sci-fi fans who like to shoot, rather than "anti-gubmint radical terrorists".

In the end, best not to alienate folks who support the same rights. We already have plenty of folks in any political group who want to protect their own rights at all costs, while those nasty-filthy (insert other group here) need to be oppressed.

 

[Strykervet]

I think we get too wrapped up in what the anti-gun nuts think of us. They hate us, aren't likely to change their minds, and I see no reason to live in fear of what they think.

The Main Stream News Media is anti-gun. I think it is tattooed on their soul somewhere. They will lie if they have to say bad things about us, if a zombie themed shooting ever does occur, we will get the blame anyway, so why worry about it.

In the late 1970's, I was worried about a nuclear war that would destroy civilization. I got interested in guns to survive Nuclear Armageddon. I also took up blacksmithing as a useful trade to have. Fortunately by the mid eighties, the possibility of nuclear war was subsiding, but my interest in firearms and blacksmithing remained.
If young people get interested in guns through the zombie craze, then it is a good thing. I have used the Zombie Apocalypse to get my nephews interested in guns and basic survival skills. Nothing extreme, just how to make a fire, shelter and find your way in the woods. Boy Scout stuff. In return they introduced me to the Japanese anime "High School of the Dead" and I got them reading Larry Correia's Monster Hunter International books.

I think getting people interested in guns is a good thing, and far outweighs what people who already hate us thinks.

Yeah, you get the point, but I argue we CAN change what the anti's think of us. Most anti positions are due to ignorance. Ignorance can be fixed. Take an anti shooting is about as good as taking a youngster shooting. Your approach and what you do is stellar by the way. Good job.

The point of this thread is to discuss how we can take zombie shooting and turn it into a legitimate sport. Staying one step ahead as it were. I thought zombie stuff was stupid, but you know what? I was ignorant. When I learned what they were doing, it looked fun and now I want to join in. But I'm not getting the zombie Duracoat and chop job, my regular stuff will have to suffice!

As far as the anti's in general, it really baffles me and it has to be due to ignorance. I mean, come on, what educated person (educated as far as weapons and 2A goes anyway) would WANT to mess with the Bill of Rights? 2A secures the rest of it!

It is the reason most of us will live and die and never fight a battle on our own turf. That is nice, isn't it? Nice that we are immune from crap like Syria? I mean, you can only pay people so much to shoot other people that shoot back before they quit... And judging by how many weapons were sold in Nov. and Dec. alone, I'd say the American public is armed far better than the average infantryman. Our crime rate, in case you wondered, is proportional to income inequality and economic distress and not at all proportional to the numbers sold. High crime areas are poor areas that also have poor education quality, they always have been and they always will be. Watch "Superman isn't coming", it really put a lot of pieces in the puzzle for me, good stuff.

In the meantime, with so many groups taking "anti" positions with arms, abortion, drugs, etc., essentially groups trying to put the genie back in the bottle at the cost of your freedom, it is essential that we take as much of the "fuel" and use it ourselves --if zombie shoots become a legitimate sport, it is kind of hard to use it against us, PLUS we get new shooters on the range instead of the street.

It is important to take youngsters and guide their free time. They can hang out at malls, secretly shoot with their buddies in the woods, probably with a stolen pistol and a case of beer, OR they can spend time at a range with others and adults, have fun, not get in trouble, and like it or not, they will be exposed to safety, rules, and proper range etiquette. Every minute they spend in this situation as opposed to the other is a GOOD thing, trust me here. Males are WIRED to be interested in arms. It is axiomatic, it is what males do. Some groups like to think you can change hardwired human behaviour through rules and laws, but that is absurd, it just doesn't work. Instead of fighting it, which is a losing battle (drug war for instance) I say embrace it and make it something that is good. That's all. The last thing we need is a "gun war", or any other war against human nature that our goverment LOVES to embark on, and they do not ever throw in the towel, so prevention is the key.

Finally, kids shooting zombie targets aren't shooting human targets. Some may get interested enough to join the military, and that could be their ticket out of the ghetto. If zombie shoots get them interested enough, keep them away from crime, introduce them to safe handling of firearms and respect for life, and ultimately introduce them to military service, is that a bad thing?

Thing is, anti's have one goal: to drive criminals to use much more lethal and indescriminate weapons such as improvised explosives. This is axiomatic too. Not only will they change the weapons fielded, they will take away a pastime and replace it with nothing. They'll take your firearms away, but they won't do anything to improve schools, provide after school activities, etc. See the problem now? Because I don't think they do, they seem to think banning firearms is the solution but it could open the gates for totalitarianism and improvised warfare in the streets.