Zombies are invading... our shooting culture!?

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Well, by now everyone knows about Hornady's decision to roll out their "for zombies only" ammo.

But I never wondered what exactly to fire it in... Until now. Look at this:

http://762precision.wordpress.com/custom-duracoat-firearm-finishes/zombie-killer/

What do you guys think? I'm kind of lost for words really. I can see how they'd be useful for Hollywood, but they look like something out of video game I'm playing currently. Make sure to read the repsonses below.

This company, like Hornady, does outstanding work otherwise. Their chameleonflage and champat freehand/digital camo is superb --I'm trying to copy one of their schemes now. They do good work. So why the zombie stuff? It mentions "zombie shoots". Is this a new sport like 3gun or something?

I guess I'm traditional, I like my AR's and I like my video games, but I draw a distinct line between the two. When I go to the range, I go to have fun, to shoot difficult shots, test ammo, parts, builds, whatever. I like all of that. I'm having fun.

So I guess that if zombies are becoming a legitimate part of shooting, if there are "zombie shoots" and this is what these guys do for fun (as long as they do it safe and hopefully know the difference between reality and make believe --I assume the do) then who are we to mock it or say nay?

If this becomes a big new sport, shooting zombies on ranges, then I suppose this site will have to change some rules to allow for discussion of "zombies". At least in this context, no? Would it not be better to have the zombie crew under the folds of the wings of experienced shooters (because most of the afficianados seem to be the younger crowd new to arms with no traditional background) or should they be expelled from here because of their choice of ammo (made by one of my favorites, I have to admit it) and camo jobs (done by one of the best around) and targets? Which I assume could run the gamut from paper targets to even moving mannequins.

Come to think of it, if the layout looks fun, I may shoot a "zombie match" myself! But I'm kind of open minded. If it looks fun though, why not? Now I'm interested.
 
Ok, now I kinda dig the zombie thing, but that is pushing it. Why would I pay someone good money to make my gun look like crap when I can do it myself for free?

Although, I'm now wanting an extended trench mag for my M-44.
 
With 2012 around the corner expect to see more Apolcalyptic fascination. Maybe they'll cough up the dough to make MHI into a movie.
 
This is the first real mention of seen of it, though I've seen it alluded to in other places on this forum. I'm a young guy (27), but I've been shooting since around age 5, and zombie shoots don't hold a lot of allure for me. I shoot with guys mostly old enough to be my father, so no wonder I haven't heard of zombie shoots, or whatever. Am I interested? No. Why? Because I'm an adult. I also can't help but think that such a thing could fuel anti-gun fires. What do you do on weekends? Get together with my buddies and shoot zombies....sounds like I'll stick with paper and steel.
 
I know. we should all abandon our sense of humour when we turn 18. Because we all know responsible adults stop having fun.

But honestly, why all the bunched up panties?
Where is the difference between this and CASS?
Anyone?
 
I don't mind the adoption of zombie targets and even zombie matches since it's just a modernization of playing cowboys and indians or soldier, but going so far as to market shooting products based on the zombie entertainment wave just puzzles me. While I don't understand how it can be economically practical to sell ammunition and gun finishes I have to agree that if it looks stupid, but works, it ain't stupid.
 
I like that it has a flash enhancer rather than a flash suppressor, funny stuff. :D
 
BLB68 said:
I like that it has a flash enhancer rather than a flash suppressor, funny stuff. :D
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Yeah, and they spray on fake blood. Looks just like the weapons in this game I'm playing. I personally wouldn't have it done, but if zombie shoots become a new sport shooting craze, hey, I may participate --but I'm not dressing up and I'm certainly not doing that to my rifle. I may camo it, but I ain't doing that. On the other hand, I'd like to have a space gun in polished stainless and gloss metallic neon purple!
 
On the other hand, I'd like to have a space gun in polished stainless and gloss metallic neon purple!
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If they ever have a kit to make a rifle look like the ones from WH40K ... I would be all over that.
 
jakescott586 said:
This is the first real mention of seen of it, though I've seen it alluded to in other places on this forum. I'm a young guy (27), but I've been shooting since around age 5, and zombie shoots don't hold a lot of allure for me. I shoot with guys mostly old enough to be my father, so no wonder I haven't heard of zombie shoots, or whatever. Am I interested? No. Why? Because I'm an adult. I also can't help but think that such a thing could fuel anti-gun fires. What do you do on weekends? Get together with my buddies and shoot zombies....sounds like I'll stick with paper and steel.
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Well, I'm older than you and been shooting since I was a kid too. I also play video games. But before all that, I grew up learning how to stalk passed on generations to my great uncle and my father, I spent a lot of time on ranges, and ended up an SDM instructor at the advanced infantry skills center at my last post. I think I'm an adult, but my wife may agree with you that I'm a five year old. Anyway, I think the tradition needs to be preserved, where dad or some family member passes on the torch. Otherwise it gets lost and you get young kids that grow up and this becomes their gun culture. Video games to zombies with nerfball guns, to real purchases of AK's at the gun shop when they turn of age. I see a problem with that. It may be perfectly legal, but I feel the kid that does this fell through the cracks somewhere along the way. Probably anti parents. So if it takes a village, some local gun nut needs to get this kid under his wing, and if zombie shoots with AK's rings the bell, so be it. It may be fun. BTW, we shot zombie targets from time to time in the SDM course. Have a sense of humor.

So the question I posit to you is this: should we abandon them (call it stupid, make 'em feel like mall cops) or should we embrace it (some could show them how to organize good shoots and make them challenging and fun) and take them under our wing? Instead of making them feel like mall ninjas, perhaps we could make them feel like sports shooters?

Because the tradition has been broken, this may be an opportune time to take this whole zombie craze over and "officialize" it as it were, and it could very well be a good stepping stone for younger shooters to get into competitive shooting. Eventually they'll grow out of it except for the ocassional fun shoot, they'll most likely grow into stock pistol or highpower or something. But this would keep it fun and it would keep them under the supervision of knowledeable individuals teaching them the fundamentals of safety, marksmanship, and competition.

Or we could abandon it and throw it into the anti's court like you said and let them have a field day with it. Because I'm sure they would.
 
Nushif said:
If they ever have a kit to make a rifle look like the ones from WH40K ... I would be all over that.
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Well, they look more like AR's but bolt action instead of semi, and with really long barrels plus extensions to increase sight radius. They usually have awesome iron sights, $600 or more, and fully adjustable buttstocks. They are sporting rifles, not tactical rifles, so having a fun colorful paintjob just seems right to me. Perhaps even faded with purple flames... I have an airbrush and blue tape, I just need the Duracoat and the spacegun and I'm in business!
 
You know what id like to know is? Do ppl look for things to troll over? Or can no one take a joke any more. Pm me with your interesting or creative responces.
 
I thought green tips were for SS109? :)

Sigh. I thought Black Talon was a dumb idea too and look where that got me. (I have one unopened box and wish I'd bought a whole bunch more... back when it was cheap.)

Collectible, maybe. They won't make it for long and it'll go up in price.
 
Am I missing something here? I don't get this ammo. For it to be designated as Zombie ammo, it should have fragmentation and incendiary qualities... you want the brain to burn when you plug 'em in the forehead...(Z-Wars) [which by the way is probably going to suck as a movie with Brad Pitt...]
 
Where is the difference between this and CASS?
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My question exactly. I do not shoot CASS, nor do I collect zombie ammo and gear. But that does not mean I oppose others having fun. If that is their hobby, it is fine by me.
I understand some people worrying about this tainting gun owners image with the public. It very well might do so. But anyone who opposes the zombie gun culture had better have the same opinion of CASS. Both cultures are just guys having fun.
 
As others have pointed out - it's similar to CASS. The people who are into this stuff don't LITERALLY believe zombies are going to attack; its just in good fun.

Now, I personally don't find zombie targets all that appealing, nor the zombie guns, but I did buy a box of Zombie Max ammo just for kicks, and I LOVE the entertainment genre. I watch all the movies I can get my hands on and love visiting the "haunted houses" (the ones with actors) and other Halloween type attractions.

To me this is the exact opposite of mall-ninjaism. Its a realization that everything gun related not be some stuffy boring "tactical" this and that. Sometimes guns can just be fun. Not everyone wants to "train", or run drills, or do a the tacti-cool thing. Its just about going out and putting some rounds downrange while having a genuine smile on your face.

As long as they're being safe about it, I really, really don't care what anyone does, what type of guns they use, or what type of targets they feel like shooting at the range.
 
Strykervet, I agree with you. Just because someone is into the Zombie craze, doesn't mean that they should be shunned. Some just don't know better. But some do. While us, and others, may think that punching holes in paper from afar is fun, others may see it as boring... Thus the reactive targets. It's all about fads. One thing comes in, one thing rolls out. But I can see the whole Zombie aspect, along with the big 2012 coming up, that the Zombie thing is going to be around for a while.

Teach the youngsters if they didn't have the pro-firearm upbringing. If someone asks you a question, don't shoo them off, of treat them like a diseased individual if they show signs of the craze, but if they ask you questions, answer them honestly. Hell, shoot with them. People can be influenced pretty easily by others. Lead by example.
 
Strykervet,
You make a valid point, if zombie shooting gets people involved in shooting in a way that casts a positive light on the sport, then I say go for it. I doubt I'll ever participate in it myself, just not my cup of tea, but to each their own.
 
The last thing shooting needs is to in any way legitimize or endorse an activity that makes shooters look irresponsible or "lost in a fantasy world" for the media to twist around the next time some crazy, fool who has lost his grip on reality goes off on some killing spree.
Shooting is fun but it is also serious business. “Zombie shooting” blurs a line between fantasy and reality that could result in negative consequences, such as the non shooting public perceiving those of us involved in shooting to appear to be somewhat delusional. I realize that many shooters, whether it's good or bad, may have been inspired or attracted to the shooting sports by watching TV westerns or war/action movies. However, IMHO Zombies take this to a whole other level. I don't think comparing zombie shoots to CASS is a legitimate comparison because at least it can be argued that CASS has it's roots “somewhat” in history, fact or traditional "Americana" at the very least.. ( btw, if zombies are the Americana of our future then our society is already doomed and spiraling down the toilet..) And, no I DON'T shoot CASS.... I also think that Hornady has tarnished their public image, at least in my eyes, for trying to turn a profit marketing ammo for it... Let’s leave fantasy shooting to video gamers and not bring the fantasy into the world of real shooting…
 
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