1911 Slide Release Don't Use?

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Hey guys! Well my RIA FS Tac II .45 is en route to my LGS. This is my first ever 1911, so I have a quick question that I need to get cleared up before I shoot this pistol.

I have read that you aren't supposed to use the slide release lever to chamber a round when reloading with the slide locked back. I've heard this can wear down this part and ruin it. Instead, most modern tactical instructors say to do the "sling shot" method of reloading where you grab the back of the slide and pull back to release.

Any truth to this? I kind of like to use the slide stop as that is how we are trained in the military on the M9 Beretta.

Does anyone know if it is in fact a bad idea to use the slide release on a 1911, or it it horse pockey? Thanks all!
 
I've always been amused at the notion of wearing out a part by using it. Yes, the part will wear out eventually, as will most parts in the gun. In fact, it will wear out even if you use the slingshot technique. Replacements aren't very expensive, but not really a concern because you will have sent thousands of dollars worth of ammunition down range before you need to get a new one. Worry not, use the slide stop to release the slide.
 
To better chamber a round fully, slingshot works best for me with 45 acp. As a Bullseye target shooter, this is the best way to get the first round from the magazine to go into the group. Better lockup of the action.
 
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I think its more of a personal preference, how you were taught, type thing.

Ive done it both ways over the years, but once I got to understand the overhand slingshot method, that was about the last I used the slide stop.
 
I used the slide release on four different 1911s for many years in competition and never wore one out or had to replace one.
 
:Sling-shot it. Proven Israeli combat technique. It's applicable to many semi-auto pistols, but especially Glocks.

Many are ignorant of how to properly do the aforesaid sling-shot technique which only puts said ignorant dudes well-behind the tactical curve ... to their mucho detriment. :eek: Study and practice can over come this.

I used the slide release on four different 1911s for many years in competition and never wore one out or had to replace one.
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Dude, on the two-way shooting range what you do, or did, in competition is irrelevant. When bad guys are shooting back, the Gun Shop Commando advice goes out the window. Thumbing the slide release-lever to chamber a round is Grampa's Gizzer gun technique that dates to WW1.

It's 2016. Sling-shot it. :cool:
 
agtman said:
:Sling-shot it. Proven Israeli combat technique. It's applicable to many semi-auto pistols, but especially Glocks.

Many are ignorant of how to properly do the aforesaid sling-shot technique which only puts said ignorant dudes well-behind the tactical curve ... to their mucho detriment. :eek: Study and practice can over come this.



Dude, on the two-way shooting range what you do, or did, in competition is irrelevant. When bad guys are shooting back, the Gun Shop Commando advice goes out the window. Thumbing the slide release-lever to chamber a round is a Grampa's Gizzer gun technique that dates to WW1.

It's 2016. Sling-shot it. :cool:
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So it's best not to do this and use the sling shot method?
 
Do some research, give it some practice, and I think youll see the wisdom in the slingshot.

Its gross motor skills that work under stress. Its also a more positive way to get the slide to go. I know Ive had my share of "tight", and even "no go" slide stops over the years. Not an issue with the slingshot.
 
agtman said:
:Sling-shot it. Proven Israeli combat technique. It's applicable to many semi-auto pistols, but especially Glocks.

Many are ignorant of how to properly do the aforesaid sling-shot technique which only puts said ignorant dudes well-behind the tactical curve ... to their mucho detriment. :eek: Study and practice can over come this.



Dude, on the two-way shooting range what you do, or did, in competition is irrelevant. When bad guys are shooting back, the Gun Shop Commando advice goes out the window. Thumbing the slide release-lever to chamber a round is Grampa's Gizzer gun technique that dates to WW1.

It's 2016. Sling-shot it. :cool:
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Argue with Larry Vickers, dude. No need for the rude tone of your post.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LmjakoWKwU
 
agtman said:
:Sling-shot it. Proven Israeli combat technique. It's applicable to many semi-auto pistols, but especially Glocks.
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And right there, you hit it on the head, but not because it's 'proven' but because Glock has an extraordinarily small slide catch/hold/release/lever/button. One cannot bet on consistently hitting the lever, hence the injunction to revert to lowest common denominator and use the sling-shot method.

Why, if the 'Israeli method' is so superior, do so very few also use the 'Israeli method' of keeping the chamber empty and only loading when one is drawing? Could it be perhaps, that the Israeli method was a was of ensuring safety when there was no standard Israeli arm but a hodgepodge of everything and anything the young State could get hold of either through legal or illegal means?
 
I've had my 1991A1 for 25 years now. Ain't had nary a problem using the slide stop as a "slide release".

Use what method you're comfortable with.

As for me...I don't see myself changing. Perhaps 1911Tuner could convince me otherwise, but I'm not holding my breath for anybody else being able to do this.
 
In my peaceful little non-combat world, I normally don't use the ss to chamber rounds, however it's perfectly acceptable. What you don't want to do, except when examining, testing, etc the pistol, is to drop the slide on an empty chamber.
 
Use the slide RELEASE as much as you want. Much ado about nothing.
Why are so called slide stops serrated on the top if you are not meant to use them to release the slide?
 
1911Tuner is still around, but I believe he's got lots of things going on in the real world which is occupying his attention. His last posting appears to have been last September.

For those who are interested, here's an old thread (from 2006) where 1911Tuner put in his two cents on this very subject:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=203380

Essentially, if the gun is working properly, it will go into battery with either method. If it doesn't, then it's time to get it fixed.


As for "slide stop" or "slide release", he has this to say:

It's three parts in one.

When it locks the slide on empty...it's a slidelock.
When it halts the slide's forward momentum going to battery...it's a slidestop.
When you thumb it down to let the slide ride forward on a reload...it's a slide release.

Was Browning sharp, or what?

:D
 
Not yelling at you at all, but rather over the din of internet rumor goofiness.

Nearly 20 posts and the answer to your question is merely three words - didn't want it missed in the tacti-speak and pet-procedure perspectives.

Todd.
 
Where is 1911tuner when you need him? Do a search the slide stop as designed by JMB is a multi function part. JMB liked multi-taskers. It is a slide stop and a slide release. If it was not meant to be used to release the slide why is it serrated?

Retiredusnchief beat me to it. LOL
 
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Nearly 20 posts and the answer to your question is merely three words * * *
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Well, it's 23 posts now, but you're right.

The three words are: sling shot it. :eek:
 
agtman said:
:Sling-shot it. Proven Israeli combat technique. It's applicable to many semi-auto pistols, but especially Glocks.

Many are ignorant of how to properly do the aforesaid sling-shot technique which only puts said ignorant dudes well-behind the tactical curve ... to their mucho detriment. Study and practice can over come this.

It's 2016. Sling-shot it.
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Gecko45, where have you been hiding all these years?
 
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