A true SEAL vet or a wannabe mall ninja?

[#shooter]

I was a SEAL....

For a weekend and we did use the .50 DE.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SOCOM_U.S._Navy_SEALs:_Combined_Assault

if it is in the game, then it must be true.

 

[USMC - Retired]

I would say he is full of it. And while we are discussing secret military units, any of you armchair commandos one ever heard of ANGLICO?

ANGLICO? I thought they were called DANGLYCO cause every time I seen em they was dangling on a string under a Huey...

 

[hceptj]

I was in the Navy and one of my shore duty stations happened to have a Seal detachment near the pier where I worked. I did some freebie repairs for them on a couple of the small training boats they used for practice. Made some ladders, handrails, etc. that were rusted out.

None of them ever said what they did, it was just "known" because of my duty location. Nice guys, always hooked me up with "extra's" that I couldn't get being a Boiler Tech...

I highly doubt that any SF type will offer up that information to a stranger.

My vote would be "poser".

 

[Eleven Mike]

I can state authoritatively that the man was not a SEAL. In '91, I was the only SEAL professional enough, that I know of, to carry a Deagle fitty.

 

[Outlaw Man]

This is second hand info, so take it for what it's worth. I entirely trust the guy that told me, though. I didn't think to ask the only SEAL I've ever met.

My friend knew one in college - the SEAL was going back to get a college degree so he could retire as an officer, at least that was his story. He told my friend that they could carry any pistol they wanted to, though most opted for the Sig 226 or a 1911. That was around twenty years ago, though, so it has very likely changed.

I doubt that the Navy would have suddenly decided that the Desert Eagle was what the SEALs needed to carry.

 

[bogie]

Another giveaway...

They're really big and beefy, with a carefully maintained military appearance...

Not.

The only "special operations" troopies I've known were relatively small guys, and lean. And furry as all get-out... Hair on the ears, no hitler mustaches. Even beards. Gotta blend in, you know... Maybe they couldn't power lift against one of the big beefy guys, but they could run him into the ground. And then run his buddy into the ground. And then run his car into the ground.

 

[MatthewVanitas]

Another giveaway...

They're really big and beefy, with a carefully maintained military appearance...

Not.

Bogie makes a great point. I've only met four SEALS, in Tikrit, and none of them looked like bodybuilders. All looked really "healthy", but that's about it. Two of them looked really boyish with the shaggy haircuts and khaki ballcaps instead of military covers, kinda reminded of a really lean-and-cut surfer or skater.

The two hugest Marines I ever met were:
1) a GySgt so buff that he couldn't even roll the sleeves on his cammies, had to have a seamstress cut off the sleeves and hem his summer sets to look "rolled": was an 01 Administrative Marine
2) A Cpl who got kicked out of linguist school for accidentally knocking a chair _through_ an interior wall when standing up to argue a point: reassigned as a Fabric Repair Technician, or "tactical seamstress"

Met a handful of Recon (not Force) guys too, most of whom looked pretty lean, and insisted that they always told people in the States that they were HUMVEE mechanics for the Corps.

-MV

 

[El Tejon]

Being skinny, er, lean and mean, is highly tactical. You can turn sideways and avoid incoming fire.

 

[mbt2001]

My understanding is that you can't shoot more than 40 rounds per day of the .50AE in the desert eagle (or at least it is HIGHLY recommended).

MY VOTE: He is a mall ninja

 

[daysleeprx]

"tactical seamstress"

I love this noun.

 

[benEzra]

I have had the privilege of meeting exactly two former Green Berets. 99% of the people who met either one would never know what they used to do for a living. They didn't wear it on their sleeves, and didn't tell strangers squat. Didn't tell their friends much, either.

One of them used to play in the SCA (medieval reenactment group), and the only way you'd know there was something special about him was his unusual skill with a rattan stick (or any other weapon he picked up)...and when he was fighting somebody in a match, he was analyzing them, observing their responses and weaknesses, and playing the match like a chess game. Extremely smart, fluent in Arabic, slightly eccentric, long ponytail, all around nice guy but NOT somebody you'd want to fight in a dark alley...

 

[Edgeofthewoods]

Good thing I was a plain old 54E assigned to a NBC unit in BF nowhere Germany!!!

C

 

[xjetpilot]

Another Winner ...

Read this article a few minutes ago on ABC News. Another winner trying to impersonate a Marine. Read on, you'll "love" this one ...

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/02/too_fat_to_be_r.html

 

[possum]

the closest he may have ever got to being a seal was if he was in the military and conducted "slls" which is said seals, after an insertion, which btw stands for stop, look, listen and smell.

but i highly doubt that he was in any service!

 

[David904]

I wouldn't waste my time worrying about this guy. Honestly... He has to look himself in the morning and reconcile who and what he is to himself. That can be punishment enough. He isn't out to try to score money, professional advancement, or public office based on what he said to you. Let it be.

Folks who make false claims do not besmirch the honor of those who have really been there and done that. Nothing anyone can do can take their honor away. We aren't that big or significant.

Who knows what this guy's motives are? What does it really matter? Just leave him alone and hope that he regains his sense of self worth and the strength to just be himself.

There's no point in humiliating a man whose wife is in the hospital.

 

[rugerdude]

Eleven Mike....hilarious (I assume you were reffering to the DEA guy video where he shoots himself)



Warning! Warranty is void if seal is broken.

 

[Eleven Mike]

rugerdude, if that is your real name, please spare me. We SEALS are so far above the DEA's level of incompetence it is pathetic. When in the field, I refused to carry anything less than the Deagle fitty, as I will not compromise in caliber, performance or accuracy. That is why I also carried a Handi-Rifle in .300 Win Mag. One shot, one kill.

 

[razorburn]

I can tell you why people do this. My "job" isn't really a job, it is a calling. It is physically demanding at times, required a lot of training, is dangerous and really doesn't prepare me to step out into the civilian world and into a high paying civilian occupation. I get a lot of satisfaction out of what I do and no amount of money is worth the way I feel. I also get a real kick out of it. Don't pity me for what I do or what I get paid because I made the choice to stick with what I do. To be honest I sometimes pity the people I see driving to work every morning, doing the same thing day in and day out, because every once in a while I get to do something really cool like save a persons life, or I get the crap scared out of me and it reminds me that I am alive and have a lot to be thankful for.

I meant why people lie about being seals or spec ops or such. I know a lot of military guys do it out of love for the work, and I respect that. There's just a lot of other really cool and high paying jobs that I find much more impressive. Pro athletes, a playboy photographer, all kinds of fascinating lines of work.

 

[The Amigo]

I AGREE

David you hit the nail dead center. God put me here to help others not to judge them. Lets talk about guns yeeehaaaa!

 

[The Burnside Ninja]

SO, I says to myself... "Self.."

When I worked for the "Super Secret Zombie Force" under the Department of Illuminati, they offered me a .50 Desert Eagle- but due to my uber ninja skills, I opted for a .22 derringer and a pointy stick.

Seriously, though... I do know someone in special forces who sticks with a 1911, M9, and M4. I've read articles about all these "technologically advanced" weapons that special forces is supposed to use- but the soon-to-retire vet of 23 years says he doesn't want to have anything to do with those.

 

[Correia]

I work with a bunch of Army SF people, and I get almost as much of a kick out of the internet reverent "they never talk about it" (said in a hushed voice) as I do the posers.

Guys, they are human beings too. Some like to talk. Some don't. Some don't tell storys. Others are funny as hell and won't stop telling storys. Just because somebody talks about stuff doesn't make them a poser anymore than the posers who play the silent steely eyed killer.

Edited to say that I'm not defending the first guy, because he sounds like a complete idiot. We don't really have a poser problem at FBMG, because as soon as the posing starts, we point out the trophy case full of military stuff and unit coins and say that those all belong to people that work here or teach for us. That usually kills it real quick.

 

[U.S.SFC_RET]

Hobie:

Here's another retiree who doesn't like the poseurs and sees one now and again along with many who are the real thing. Sad to say that even INSIDE the military there are those who try to steal a little "glory"

Yes there are Rats as enlisted or retirees wanting to gain a little attention. Some get carried away, you know the story. Get's seat of honor, that kind of stuff. Usually these guys were never front line troops. In the military? Yes, that guy who was a very high ranking Officer had a medal (with Valor). I think he was a Chief of naval Operations or something close up there. I don't know his name. Was found out and reported to the press, Killed himself over a Stupid but false medal. Happens all of the time in the military. We used to call them PX Soldiers. Stolen Valor isn't as vigorously prosecuted as it should be. IMO this country doesn't care enough about it's veterans. They are first rate liars who Steal Valor from Veterans who in some form or fashion paid the price for it only to see it get cheapened.
You become a pawn in the grand scheme of things and you find yourself in a rock and a hard spot, you will understand then. You wear the Uniform You do the Job. You get recognized.

 

[gunsmith]

one guy I knew

claimed to be a Seal, I asked him to tell me where port was in relation to stern and bow.
Not a dang clue!
I asked him where his dd214 was, he didn't know what one was!
Yup, a for real Seal...yup!

My stunning military career was filled with exciting KP duty , beer drinking and a fine collection of article 15's.

 

[gunsmith]

I knew this idiot in signal once

He was an E2, and couldn't fight his way out of a paper bag or hit the broadside of a barn with his weapon.
On his day off he would dress up in Airborne stuff and wear E4 insignia!

 

[usmccpl]

ANGLICO? Yup. Even had a few buddies there when I was with II MEF MHG. Now where I work we got a former 0331 from Force Recon. And a person would have to be brave or stupid to call him little.