superpelly
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Why don't the big gun manufactures make 30-30 bolt actions. Or maybe I'm just not looking hard enough? I have one, a Stevens Model 325 (made in1949) but why are they not out there anymore?
Why futz with the rimmed cartridge?
...7.62x39 which performs nearly identically to .30-30.
mustanger98
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...7.62x39 which performs nearly identically to .30-30.
I read this comparison all the time, but just about everyone who makes it forgets several differences... bullet weight- 125gr vs 150 and 170gr- and the ft.lbs. involved to 300yds. As a deer hunter, I can't say I'd bother with 7.62x39.
I'm not sure how many people consider the 30-30 a 300 yard deer rifle either.
A rimmed round could make things a little more tricky, but remember there have been lots of bolt guns chambered for rimmed rounds. The Lee Enfield was chambered for the .303, the P-14 for the .303 (the design of which was modified later for the rimless .30-06 a la M1917), the Mosins in 7.62x54 and oodles of .22 rimfires. Just needs to be designed or redesigned properly.Superpelly--There's the rim, also. The rim on a .30-30 makes it hard to feed from a box magazine, as compared to a rimless cartridge.
Wolf loads 154 and there is the 150 grain loading that another poster mentioned. For woodland hunting ranges, which ought be less than 100 usually, the 7.62x39 ought be fine. I don't think it's a 300 yard round, but for through 100 to 150 it should perform just fine.125gr vs 150 and 170gr- and the ft.lbs. involved to 300yds.
FACT the 7.62x39mm will shoot those 150gr bullets to velocities within 200fps of the 30-30, also firing 150gr bullets.
Ever read Layne Simpson's article in Shooting Times a while back?