justin22885
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do you actually load a full cylinder of 4F into your old army or is this just another "i COULD" scenario? because unless its safe to regularly do any of these things then it has no value
No I didn't but if you actually read the Old Army instruction manual it tells you you could. It is a well known fact that the Ruger Old Army can handle 4f (ffffg)do you actually load a full cylinder of 4F into your old army or is this just another "i COULD" scenario? because unless its safe to regularly do any of these things then it has no value
There is another issue despite the sales pitches of some aftermarket cylinder makers Ruger Old Army cylinder are not always the same and some need skilled work to be functional in an Old Army that it was not orginally fit to at the factory.if theres a ball detent for that screw for the basepin, why didnt they just make it a push-button like their other pistols?
I have a few of both, conversion cylinders for both too and the ROA is clearly a better gun. Why do you hate the ROA so much?Black powder revolver routinely get torn down for cleaning and because of that mistakes can happen. One mistake with an ROA and your done.
Like I said before their is nothing a ROA can do that a Remington can't do but there are things a Remington can do that a ROA can't do, like shoot in judged events like in the N-SSA.
How much power do you need guy?
.44 Remington, 8 inch 35 grain Trip 7 140 grain, .454 ball 1174 ft/s 428 ft-lbs
.44 Remington, 8 inch 40 grain Trip 7 140 grain, .454 ball 1229 ft/s 470 ft-lbs
Compared to 45 ACP +P commercial Loads.
45 ACP +P 185 grain 475 ft/lbs 1075 ft/sec
45 ACP +P 230 grain 461 ft/lbs 950 ft/sec
It is probably the better gun in terms of performance yes.i hope to start putting together a machine shop this spring or summer, so if anything breaks i will probably have the tools to just make a replacement.. im not too worried about that
the real question is, is an old army 2-3x better than the remington as it seems to cost 2-3 more
what exactly do they do to the remington?It is probably the better gun in terms of performance yes.
But for half or one third the money, I would take a Remington New Model Army and have it worked over by Goon's Gun Works out of Georgia and probably end up with just as good or better while still at half the price of a Ruger Old Army.
This all depends on what price Justin can find an ROA for. If he can get a blued model, or ANY model for $400, then he would be wise to jump on that. $400 for an ROA beats any Walker or Dragoon for any price.It is probably the better gun in terms of performance yes.
But for half or one third the money, I would take a Remington New Model Army and have it worked over by Goon's Gun Works out of Georgia and probably end up with just as good or better while still at half the price of a Ruger Old Army.
I have a few of both, conversion cylinders for both too and the ROA is clearly a better gun. Why do you hate the ROA so much?
You're not still planning on getting a conversion cylinder for it are you? If not, I'd recommend just getting the brass frame model; a little less and can usually be found on auction sites for around $200 or less.well, at least i know i'll be getting a .31 cal remington at some point, so theres that
i dont really want a walker or a dragoon for the same reasons i generally dislike the 1860.. im just not a big fan of the open top, the giant wedge holding it all together, i dont like having the rear sight on the hammer and all of these would be the same on the walker/dragoon, i like a solid frame, machined v-notch rear sight, and the ability to remove the cylinder quickly
i noticed kirst makes a conversion kit for the ROA army, 6-shot 45 colt, but the back plate doesnt appear to have a loading gate.. would a loading gate off an 1858 work? or maybe one off a dragoon or walker perhaps with a little extra fitting?