HoosierQ
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.223. 300 win mag. .416 Rigby.
I have chamber adapters for 380, 9MM & 38 Special for it too.the 660 Rem. .350 Mag was Col. Coopers "spark Plug" and also his "Lion Scout" rifle. I have seen and shot the original, and yes even in a good stock like his had it does smack you . That is why general shooting I like the .35 Remington, it is very mild , much less than the equivalent weight carbine in .308 Winchester. however as an emergency hunting tool the Lion Scout has much to offer the man hiking around in dangerous game country. 250 grain bonded .358" bullets at 2400 fps from a 20" barrel will cleanly take anything under African giant species up to 200 or more yards
Don't some African countries require larger than .375 for some species?
Gotta agree with this. It can be made legal, but not suitable.A 200gr .375 is not enough bullet for dangerous game.
At the muzzle it had 4800+ foot pounds of energy and if it is not capable of doing the job why would a PH use it in a rental gun?
The issue's not energy (of which there is plenty) but rather sectional density. Low-SD projectiles have a tendency to get hung up or deflected by hide and bone - especially low-SD expanding projectiles. The problem is reduced somewhat by using an all-copper projectile, but not enough to make it a reliable choice.
As to why the PH would recommend it, not all PHs understand terminal ballistics and of those that do some choose to ignore what they know in order to put clients in softer recoiling guns figuring they can always stop wounded animals with a larger rifle.
The general advice is a minimum of .375 300gr for dangerous game as a client. For a stopping/game control rifle the minimum is more like 400gr, .40 or greater caliber, and SD of at least .29. So .404 Jeffrey, .450/400 NE etc.
Given the risks, this is NOT a place to screw around IMO. Get the right rifle. Learn to shoot it until it's like an extra appendage. Because if Murphy strikes, you may be doing your own stopping or trying to protect a tracker or the PH (yes, they have gun failures from time to time too).
Energy is an absolutely meaningless number. As Llama Bob posted, a bullet needs enough mass to ensure adequate penetration. A 200gr .375 simply does not have enough of it and the amount of energy produced is completely irrelevant.At the muzzle it had 4800+ foot pounds of energy and if it is not capable of doing the job why would a PH use it in a rental gun?
Energy is an absolutely meaningless number. As Llama Bob posted, a bullet needs enough mass to ensure adequate penetration. A 200gr .375 simply does not have enough of it and the amount of energy produced is completely irrelevant.
You'd never catch me using anything smaller than a 400gr .416 for dangerous game, excluding the big cats and bears.