243winxb
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Bumpfire will go the way of machine guns.
just such talk and their sold out, it's been said obama was the best gun salesman ever in historyNothing like a ban threat to make millions of gun owners become convinced they really ought to have one or a dozen of whatever it is stashed away just in case.
Fair enough bro. I consider bump stocks worthless and ridiculous personally.Sir.
My comment was not ment for debate. It was a comment on how "I" felt about the item. It was neither a for or an against vote! Read again............Neither a for or against vote!!
As to your phase," when we start nitpicking........................." Who`s nippicking??
I just don`t have a need or desire for one." Just like I don`t need or desire a bigger house.
Nothing like a ban threat to make millions of gun owners become convinced they really ought to have one or a dozen of whatever it is stashed away just in case.
No, the initial registration (in 1934) was free. The amnesty registration in 1968 was also free.(Actually, how did the 1934 NFA work? Did owners of existing items need to pay for the stamp, or was there an exception?)
There's a distinct political / legal difference between bump-fires and machine guns.Bumpfire will go the way of machine guns.
Yes, I saw that. It appears that the NRA is trying to walk its previous statement back a bit, and dump the whole matter into the hands of the ATF.Ten minutes ago the AOL news feed headline is that NRA opposes a ban.
I suppose if I bought the click bait, I'd find NRA supports some special regulation short of a ban.
The left has no "critical thinking" skills. Only "hysterical feeling" skills.Unfortunately, moderator Sam1911 quickly shut down the thread regarding the NRA official coming out saying they're now OPPOSING the bumpfire stock ban ...
See
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ses-ban-on-bump-stocks-used-in-vegas-massacre
As members Carl N. Brown and AlexanderA note, the NRA seems to be "walking back" the initial response indicating support of a ban on bumpfire stocks ...
As time passes, the initial emotional responses to the event subside enough to the point where both sides' critical thinking skills start working again.
Yeah, right ... underestimate the left at your own risk. This is exactly why we're operating from behind, because they know how to play the clueless and the fence-sitters, while we simply continue to preach to the choir.The left has no "critical thinking" skills. Only "hysterical feeling" skills.
Agreed. Tim McVeigh used fertilizer to kill 168. The Nice' attacker used a delivery truck to kill 86. Even the CDC estimates cell phones kill nearly 3300 people in car crashes every year (and that is probably very conservative.) Don't even get me started on cigarettes.....OK, they are talking about banning something I have no interest in, bumpfire stocks. I also have no interest in triggers that fire on press, fire on release (I can see myself in a situation that two shots are not desirable if the first was all that was needed or was not needed).
I do recall that one of the gun ban groups (VPC I believe) has pointed out that aimed semi-auto fire is deadlier than full-auto spray-and-pray. With that attitude, accept ban on simulated full-auto, a ban on semi-auto is next.
I do not think the any of the bans will affect bad behavior by people with ill intent. The Happy Land social club arsonist killed more people (87) than Paddock killed (59) IF he used a legal bump fire, I am not convinced he did not use an illegal full auto or a real twitchy trigger finger.
With a ban, people with no criminal intent will get felonized for what they own but have not misused. I guarantee the next madman will use something unexpected.
By that I meant they are skilled at manipulating the hysterical feelings of the clueless and fence sitters, because they cannot appeal to those who think critically- the facts and statistics are not on their side.Yeah, right ... underestimate the left at your own risk. This is exactly why we're operating from behind, because they know how to play the clueless and the fence-sitters, while we simply continue to preach to the choir.
Attorney General Sessions could declare a 90-day amnesty (under the provisions of the 1968 Gun Control Act), but it wouldn't be at all clear if that could override the 1986 law. Given the political toxicity of pump-fires, it's unlikely he would do that anyway.
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/atf-national-firearms-act-handbook-chapter-3/downloadATF The 1968 amendments also provided for the establishment of additional amnesty periods not exceeding 90 days per period. To date, no additional amnesty periods have been declared.
Their "walk back" seems to be to make a distinction: they're for further "regulation" but not "banning." This is a distinction without a difference. As I pointed out earlier in this thread, any regulation will amount to a banning, because there is no current way to add such items to the registry. It would take legislation, and I don't see Congress as in any mood to open the machine gun registry. Even the NRA is (wrongly) repeating the mantra that "machine guns are already illegal!" Historically, the NRA has been all too willing to throw machine gun owners under the bus (see their support for the original 1934 NFA and the 1986 FOPA). Bump-fires, in reality, are just the "poor man's machine guns." Expect no support for them from the NRA.the NRA seems to be "walking back" the initial response indicating support of a ban on bumpfire stocks ...
Seemed so in 1986. NRA just let it happen.NRA has been all too willing to throw machine gun owners under the bus
Seemed so in 1986. NRA just let it happen.
Or get half a second of any politician's attention, unfortunately.I went back to GOA. Larry Pratt will not bend.
I'm not, and I'm holding back by the skin of my teeth from joining in it. But I'm trying to trust that the NRA has a strategy and that it is better and more likely to work than what my gut, heart, and knee-jerk reactions would be.I am just Shocked at all the NRA bashing going on especially on a pro 2A site like this