Standardize or Stay Diverse?

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Over the years I have had just about every conceivable type of firearm. From shotguns, to rifles, to semi-auto's and wheel guns. Even a derringer or two.

For home protection I always fell back on a good shotgun. I have carried DA/SA's, strikers and SAO's in various flavors.

Today I have been alternating between a 1911 in either 45 or 38 Super or a manual safety (like my 1911's) striker.

With the recent general unrest I have forsaken the 1911's for the capacity of my striker guns. I like the fact that all my striker guns use the same mags too. I get a lot of versatility out of what I have invested in there.

And now I feel like I am at a crossroads in life. Times are tough and retirement is not that far off. I am thinking about downsizing and keeping just my striker guns (as they all have either a combat or range purpose), a few shotguns and maybe one rifle (either keep my 357 lever gun or trade out to an AR of some sort).

I still enjoy reloading and have a crap-ton of all forms of brass.

The though process that I am trying to vet here with all yall who may be a bit older and have gone through this is if the idea of standardizing and keeping really, really consistent with my guns, ammo and training. Or continue to keep my variable types and calibers for enjoyment down the line.

Just looking for constructive input.
 
I did a few years ago try to limit the number of calibers. Have it down to 6 now. As for guns this state a while ago made it a huge hassle and expense to sell. So ended up owning more guns than I have ever had at one time, any time in my damn life. Finally had to buy another safe. Figure what the hell. Even the ones I almost never shoot anymore if nothing else kids can deal with them when we are gone. For those who have some they think they may want to re-home it's a sellers market right now. Some guns are very hard to lay hands on right now. So this is a good time to look at selling if you for some reason have some you just don't want. Many wait till there is a glut in the market then of course are stuck. So do you need the capitol tied up in the guns? If so selling market is good. If you don't need the capitol tied up in the guns, he why not keep them.
 
Don't know if what I have to say is useful to you or not, but this is my situation.

I also am very close to retirement, but additionally am facing some potential medical issues that may limit my activity level (and thus hunting, shooting and sadly, training) for a while. While inventorying my "stuff" I realized that I had a ridiculously huge accumulation of (also) "every conceivable type of firearm." Now, over the years I've tried to keep only the firearms I still enjoy (as collectibles, for range time and for use) but, having had to go through a relative's life-long hoard of tools, firearms and general junk upon his passing, I concluded I didn't want my family to have to go through that (it's painful in several ways, and it's actual work) when I go out.

I'm not to the point of actual downsizing, but what I have done is a careful inventory and put some stuff (anything I haven't pulled out of the safe and shot in over a year or so) back in the original boxes (if I have them) with all the paperwork, tools and spare magazines in case of the autoloaders. I also prepared a list with the current Blue Book value (I know, but it's a starting point, and I assigned my own condition to each item) so if the family does decide to sell anything, they have at least some guidance (I specified either private sales or auction, no selling to dealers or placing on consignment) as we own some high-end stuff.

I've also designated what I want to go to my spouse, my brothers and my children (over the years, it's been pretty easy to see what they really like in my collection).

Not ready to sell off anything yet, but I've started to gift some pieces to family members (in accordance wit all state and federal laws if Big Brother is reading).

As to the last question from the OP, I'd say, keep everything you currently enjoy for viewing, training, shooting and home, family and personal defense -- for now, but make some good records (if you haven't already) and have a plan for where everything will go should you go suddenly or earlier than expected ...
 
It’s better to have a few things you’re really good with than a lot of things you’re marginal with.

I say downsize and standardize. Spend the money you save in doing so, on training and ammo.

If you HAVE to ever bug out there’s only so much you can take with you. Everything else stays behind. If you don’t have to bug out ever (inshallah) why not maximize the resources you have for the 1-4 guns you enjoy the most?
 
Sounds like you don't hunt from your post. If that is the assumption I would think the following way were I in your situation and needed to downsize going into retirement.

1. HD shotgun set up well with light, extended magazine, reliability upgrades
2. HD pistol set up with light and magazines
3. Duplicate pistol to my HD pistol for range use and familiarity for HD pistol and save wear and tear on my HD pistol.
4. AR in 5.56 setup with light, RDS or LPVO, at least 10 magazines
5. Add in a fun gun for S&G's.

I would stockpile heavy in all the calibers that feed the above guns and get start spending your time and effort into training with said defensive weapons. And a bonus if there is the ability to buy some barrel conversions on your pistol in case of ammo shortages.

If a hunter then it's as simple as having a couple rifles that suit the game you hunt.
 
daniel craig said:
It’s better to have a few things you’re really good with than a lot of things you’re marginal with.

I say downsize and standardize. Spend the money you save in doing so, on training and ammo.

If you HAVE to ever bug out there’s only so much you can take with you. Everything else stays behind. If you don’t have to bug out ever (inshallah) why not maximize the resources you have for the 1-4 guns you enjoy the most?
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Good input, thank you all. Talking this through does help.

I figure if I have to bug my Strikers (5) can easily come along with my 357 Lever gun and shotgun. I could not handle ammo for any more to be honest.

I have stuck with the lever gun over an AR because if we get any more governmental pressure I figure the lever and shotgun will be the last things that they come after.

Old Dog - "I've also designated what I want to go to my spouse, my brothers and my children (over the years, it's been pretty easy to see what they really like in my collection)." - I need to do this, get my will up to date and make sure that everything is pointed to where it needs to go. I remember having to go through my mom and dads house after they passed and doing an estate sale. Man, that was a lot of work.

Alex - I could use the capital. I had to start a new job after being out of work at the first of the year in March. So right as this Covid crap started I started back in sales after being out of sales for 23years. Trying to build a pipeline right now has been almost impossible. So I am living on my base which is 1/2 what I was making before. So I have to really plan even component purchases very carefully. I have no spare funds.
 
BreechFace said:
Sounds like you don't hunt from your post. If that is the assumption I would think the following way were I in your situation and needed to downsize going into retirement.

1. HD shotgun set up well with light, extended magazine, reliability upgrades Done
2. HD pistol set up with light and magazines Done
3. Duplicate pistol to my HD pistol for range use and familiarity for HD pistol and save wear and tear on my HD pistol. Done (3 is 2, 2 is 1, 1 is none)
4. AR in 5.56 setup with light, RDS or LPVO, at least 10 magazines Not done - do I keep my 357 Lever or replace it with an AR....
5. Add in a fun gun for S&G's. Done, in my striker group I have a P320 X5 Legion and VTAC

I would stockpile heavy in all the calibers that feed the above guns and get start spending your time and effort into training with said defensive weapons. And a bonus if there is the ability to buy some barrel conversions on your pistol in case of ammo shortages. This is what I could do if I got away from my other calibers as 2, 3 and 5 all use the same round and mags. All are 9mm, but as you note I have a slide and barrels for 40 S&W and SIG 357.

If a hunter then it's as simple as having a couple rifles that suit the game you hunt.
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No, no hunting anymore. I could if needed, but I dont for sport any longer. Notes above
 
Federal Assault Weapons ban without grandfathering will never happen, in my opinion. Too many AR's in the hands of the people there would be revolt, just my opinion. Now what your individual state does and your ability to move in the case of a statewide ban, that is an answer only your voters and yourself can answer. I do love levers, but personally a 357 mag lever while potent will never compete against an AR in 556 in a true defensive role where that type of firepower response is warranted.

I understand your situation with the decision in front of you on the Lever versus AR. If you are in a state that is close to banning AR's and do not plan on moving then keeping the lever is a prudent choice.
 
Harleytoo said:
Alex - I could use the capital. I had to start a new job after being out of work at the first of the year in March. So right as this Covid crap started I started back in sales after being out of sales for 23years. Trying to build a pipeline right now has been almost impossible. So I am living on my base which is 1/2 what I was making before. So I have to really plan even component purchases very carefully. I have no spare funds.
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Then there is no better time than now to try to sell. Many guns are in very short supply due to the panic buying. If you have something many want there are plenty willing to pay top dollar right now.
 
BreechFace said:
Federal Assault Weapons ban without grandfathering will never happen, in my opinion. Too many AR's in the hands of the people there would be revolt, just my opinion. Now what your individual state does and your ability to move in the case of a statewide ban, that is an answer only your voters and yourself can answer. I do love levers, but personally a 357 mag lever while potent will never compete against an AR in 556 in a true defensive role where that type of firepower response is warranted.

I understand your situation with the decision in front of you on the Lever versus AR. If you are in a state that is close to banning AR's and do not plan on moving then keeping the lever is a prudent choice.
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Haha, I am in Texas there is very little chance of that happening here....At least without the revolt you mentioned.
 
Harleytoo said:
Haha, I am in Texas there is very little chance of that happening here....At least without the revolt you mentioned.
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Then the lever would classify as a "fun gun" or be sold to fund an AR in my mind. Depends on how much emphasis you place on being setup for defensive purposes versus fun shooting and how much you enjoy shooting your lever versus what enjoyment you may get out of shooting an AR.

As @Alex Clayton said there is not a better time to sell some guns right now prices are good for the seller, and it helps arm someone who may need it more than you it sounds like as you have a lot of your bases covered.
 
How many 1911s do you have? You have 5 strikers with common mags? I’ll probably make a bunch of people mad but I would sell those 1911s ASAP. You are thinking along the same lines obviously because you like the capacity of the strikers. 18 vs 8 rounds when riots are near is a no brainer.

That’s all I would do. Keep the lever gun and shotguns for the reason you stated and since money is tight, don’t blow money on an AR right now unless you find a good deal. People who are hard up for any gun will get a cash advance on a credit card to buy your 1911s.

Other possible more important things could be bought with that money. Do you have stocked bug out/get home bags? First aide kits? Flash lights? A generator? As someone else said, more ammo and training is a great idea.
 
I’ve just retired in the last few years. Fortunately my health is still holding up so I can shoot what I want. In my past I’ve never sold a gun, but recently I have started to thin out the herd. Not so much to get the money, but rather I’d rather have one much nicer gun vs. two not as nice guns. As an example, I recently sold two SKS’s that I never liked that much and kept the ARs that I really do like. And along the way I’ve bought a very nice 1911, upgraded another 1911, and bought my first Glock. I keep all of my handgun ammo common - .22, 9 mm, .380, or .45. Yes I am more susceptible to panics, but on the other hand I’ve got a very good sized stock that will work in a lot of different firearms.

With rifles I am a bit more diverse, but getting rid of the SKS’s got me out of 7.62x39. So now it’s just .223, 30-06, and .303. If/when the panic is over and ARs are reasonably priced again, I’ll buy a nice one to replace the SKSs. And I agree with the above on now is a good time to sell - I sold the SKS’s (Russian) via consignment, and they went for $600 each.
 
Harleytoo

I'm sort of on the same timeline as you are in some respects, such as retirement along with thoughts of downsizing. Also I'm someone who enjoys variety in my choice of firearms, especially where handguns are concerned. Don't hunt anymore so not much use for the shotguns, except for home defense, and all of the rifle ranges are quite far away. When I did go it was just typically for target practice with the AR.

So as far as standardization goes I'm fairly well set with .223 and 12 gauge being the principal chamberings in long guns. But I have a lot more diversity when it comes to handguns with .22LR, .380 ACP, .38 Special, .357 Magnum, 9mm., .45 Colt, and .45 ACP all being my "favorites". There are also two under the radar cartridges in .38 Super and .44 Special. So you can readily see I'm more on the side of keeping open and free to choose with my handgun selection and pretty much staying pat with my long guns. Handguns are my preferred weapon of choice and I see no need or desire to limit my interest in them.
 
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Harleytoo

I'm sort of on the same timeline as you are in some respects, such as retirement along with thoughts of downsizing. Also I'm someone who enjoys variety in my choice of firearms, especially where handguns are concerned. Don't hunt anymore so not much use for the shotguns, except for home defense, and all of the rifle ranges are quite far away. When I did go it was just typically for target practice with the AR.

So as far as standardization goes I'm fairly well set with .223 and 12 gauge being the principal chamberings in long guns. But I have a lot more diversity when it comes to handguns with .22LR, .380 ACP, .38 Special, .357 Magnum, 9mm., .45 Colt, and .45 ACP all being my "favorites". There are also two under the radar cartridges in .38 Super and .44 Special. So you can readily see I'm more on the side of keeping open and free to choose with my handgun selection and pretty much staying pat with my long guns. Handguns are my preferred weapon of choice and I see no need or desire to limit my interest in them.
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I too am, and always have been, more of a handgun guy. I even used to hunt with handguns when I hunted. I, currently, have .22, Sig 357, 40 SW, 9mm, 38 Super and 45 ACP. Got rid of my Long Colt's but I still have brass for it and 45-70 as well.

The .22's are keepers for if and when I have grand kids.

The Sig 357, 40 S&W and 9mm all shoot through the strikers I have

The 38 Super and and 45 ACP are my 1911 - and someone previously asked I just have two now. I had 5 and sold off the other 3 which were quite nice NightHawk's and STI's. I still love a 1911, but when I go out like someone earlier said I opt for 35 rounds of 9mm over 15 rounds of 45 or 21 rounds of 38 Super.

Its easy to keep the lever gun and shotgun as I see them as having a purpose.

I have never been much of an AR guy. Yea, I get that defensively they are better than the lever or shotgun, but if I find myself in that place I am probably screwed to be honest.
 
Over the years I've downsized and standardized. I have some guns with family or sentimental history that are in some odd cartridges or configurations that I plan to pass on to kids and grand kids. But I've pretty much standardized on 9mm pistols, 308 and 223 center fire rifles and 12 ga shotguns. Of course a couple of good 22's. I could get by just fine with 6-7 guns in those cartridges.
 
I just went through this in the last couple of years. All my 9's went except the EDC. The 1911's are pared down to 2 - a 45acp with a 22 conversion and a 22. I have one 38/357 revolver left but it has 3 different length barrels and one revolver in 45 long colt. Basically it's 8 handguns but only 4 in the safe.
Rifles follow the pistol calibers. I have lever actions in 22, 357, 45 colt and 44 magnum plus a couple of bolt action 22s. I keep plenty of 22 ammo on hand and I reload for everything else. All my pistol ammo works in all my rifles. Nothing is high capacity (unless you count the Henry 22s, but I'm probably ok there) and no safe queens, I actually shoot every gun I own.
 
Another thing came to mind as I was reading your replies and watching a few videos...that is my wife. She is not an avid shooter, and really does not train enough to be as proficient as I would like. However, I have set up home defense so, I thought, she would be comfortable. However, while I am sure she could grab the striker out of the night stand and do ok with it, I am not as clear on whether she would be mindful enough to do what is necessary with either my shotgun or an AR.

Remembering to rack the slide after every shot on the shotgun would not be her first or second thought.

She is greatly intimidated by anything AR based. Thus, I am not sure she would opt for that in a stress situation.

I am curious if she would be more comfortable (and plan to test the theory with some training ) with picking up the lever gun and using it. Again, she has to have the mindset to actuate the lever. Hence if she isnt, the reality is that something AR based would be better if I could get her comfortable with it.
 
Personally I will never downsize- they will all go to my brothers and my kids- what they choose to do with them is very much up to them- but I will tell you this I...have firearms that have been in the family for generations.....
 
I just now left a large sporting goods store in Terre Haute, Indiana.
They only had a few scattered boxes of ammo left on empty shelves.
The most they had of any caliber was .40, and only a few boxes of that.

I might sell off a few of my least favorite guns and buy ammo or components for my favorites.
 
So the testing with the wife was interesting. She vastly preferred the lever gun over the shotgun.
 
My advice would be simple. As a similarly aged person who has also owned and sold a number of firearms, my choices are shaped by a factor of not wanting to have too much of our marital funds tied up in guns that just sit and ammo for those guns as well. I have a Government sized 1911 with a couple of mags including some Wilson Combat ten rounders. It is a great range gun, very accurate, chambered in .45ACP, and is what I would rely on at home. The only other need I would have is for EDC and my Sig Sauer P365 xl fills that bill. I have no children, so there will be no passing them on. My wife is proficient with either. Seems like enough for me. Don't get me wrong, I lost after many, many guns and would love to add so many pieces to my small collection. I will probably add just one more.

Here is the thing. For all the talk of "bugging out" that will never be in my future. I can't see myself joining the rush to the mountains or forest and staking my claim to survival. No, I will stand or fall in the suburban jungle taking my chances on my ammo supplies. One gun in my hand, one in my wife's. Purely defensive. I think if most are honest, this applies to a lot more than care to admit it.

Ultimately, it is your call. Since your heart has supplied the question, it would seem you already know what is right for you. Good luck, and they are guns. Worst case scenario is also some people's best case scenario, you keep them all and have a lot of guns. Not a bad outcome either.
 
I have been slowly giving some of my guns to my sons. Some I will retain until I can shoot them no more. As for social guns, .45 ACP, 38 Spl., 5.56/.223, 12 ga. are primary, 7.62x39 and 7.62x54R are backup.
 
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