Wanting to buy a higher end firearm

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Pew-Pew said:
Handled a Springfield emissary 1911, HK VP9 & Sig P320 Spectre today. That 1911 is beautiful to look at, but those grips were uncomfortable and they are part of what makes the gun for me so unfortunately I think I have to pass on that particular model.



Sigs still don't feel right in my hand so they are out once again.



The VP9 felt great and I'm sure it would be dead nuts reliable because my USP was. However, I am looking for something a little more special or at least gets me more excited. Not that I don't want the VP9 because I do.



They also had a Wilson combat that really didn't do anything for me looking at especially for $1,600 and they had a colt commander 1911 but it was 9 mm. Looked beautiful but again 9 mm so as much as it annoys me that I'm going to have to stock another caliber with 45 I think I have to buy a 1911 in 45 only.



They also had plenty of Rock Island 1911s and I loved mine when I had it years ago but I'm looking for something a little more special If I'm buying new.
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Shoot the VP9. I think they have a tactical version now. I have outshot custom match pistols with mine. The most comfortable grips I have ever used.
 
What's the verdict on Colt 6960 vs a Daniel Defense AR vs Knight's Armament AR?
 
One is highly overrated, one is highly over marketed, and one is highly over priced.
You get to pick which is which!:D

I have enjoyed this thread. I like your choice of a Kimber Rapide. I like the way they look. I am interested in a 9mm or 38 Super 1911 as well. To compliment my Wesson Silverback. I would like another 1911, but if I get it in the same cartridge one won’t ever see use. I sold another 45 Auto 1911 because the Dan Wesson is so nice I never used the other again.

With ARs it’s hard to define “high end” as far as it has been so far, fit, finish and esthetic appeal. If the parts fit, they fit, if they don’t there isn’t much fitting to it, that part is wrong. And most of the parts are black.
A high end AR may be good looking, I find them all to be, but the quality is in the shooting. Like many Benchrest rifles, they are prettiest when shooting small.
I have a $4k+ AR. It’s black, and looks like all the other ones, can’t even see the titanium parts, but it IS higher quality and worth it.
Between those three offers, I’d take the Knights Armament as expensive, but all those are hard use expensive, not pretty and accurate expensive.(But they are gorgeous to me.)
JP Customs rifles are accurate high end, but look like the inside of a truck, I think.

That which makes the custom AR great is that you, yourself, can be the craftsman, if you want. Photo-realistic painted roses for you handguard? You got it.
Zombie-slayer your thing? Done.
DaVinci’s Vitruvian Man motif? Okay.
A mirrored left and right set of matching rifles? Can do.
Super light? Yes. Ultra match heavy? Definitely.
Hey, we even got ‘em in wood stocks!:cool:

Oh did you want accurate more than anything? White Oak has that in spades. Buy what ever lower looks good to you, or fits you well, and pin an accurate upper to it for instant match competitiveness.

ARs aren’t just custom, they’re Bespoke!:)
(Provided you stay within platform specifications.;))


For the record, you’ll get more jealous eyes while holding the Knights…:cool:
(At least from me.:oops:)
 
If I am spending KNight's money, it better be a tack driver.

Demi-human said:
One is highly overrated, one is highly over marketed, and one is highly over priced.
You get to pick which is which!:D

I have enjoyed this thread. I like your choice of a Kimber Rapide. I like the way they look. I am interested in a 9mm or 38 Super 1911 as well. To compliment my Wesson Silverback. I would like another 1911, but if I get it in the same cartridge one won’t ever see use. I sold another 45 Auto 1911 because the Dan Wesson is so nice I never used the other again.

With ARs it’s hard to define “high end” as far as it has been so far, fit, finish and esthetic appeal. If the parts fit, they fit, if they don’t there isn’t much fitting to it, that part is wrong. And most of the parts are black.
A high end AR may be good looking, I find them all to be, but the quality is in the shooting. Like many Benchrest rifles, they are prettiest when shooting small.
I have a $4k+ AR. It’s black, and looks like all the other ones, can’t even see the titanium parts, but it IS higher quality and worth it.
Between those three offers, I’d take the Knights Armament as expensive, but all those are hard use expensive, not pretty and accurate expensive.(But they are gorgeous to me.)
JP Customs rifles are accurate high end, but look like the inside of a truck, I think.

That which makes the custom AR great is that you, yourself, can be the craftsman, if you want. Photo-realistic painted roses for you handguard? You got it.
Zombie-slayer your thing? Done.
DaVinci’s Vitruvian Man motif? Okay.
A mirrored left and right set of matching rifles? Can do.
Super light? Yes. Ultra match heavy? Definitely.
Hey, we even got ‘em in wood stocks!:cool:

Oh did you want accurate more than anything? White Oak has that in spades. Buy what ever lower looks good to you, or fits you well, and pin an accurate upper to it for instant match competitiveness.

ARs aren’t just custom, they’re Bespoke!:)
(Provided you stay within platform specifications.;))


For the record, you’ll get more jealous eyes while holding the Knights…:cool:
(At least from me.:oops:)
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Demi-human said:
One is highly overrated, one is highly over marketed, and one is highly over priced.
You get to pick which is which!:D

I have enjoyed this thread. I like your choice of a Kimber Rapide. I like the way they look. I am interested in a 9mm or 38 Super 1911 as well. To compliment my Wesson Silverback. I would like another 1911, but if I get it in the same cartridge one won’t ever see use. I sold another 45 Auto 1911 because the Dan Wesson is so nice I never used the other again.

With ARs it’s hard to define “high end” as far as it has been so far, fit, finish and esthetic appeal. If the parts fit, they fit, if they don’t there isn’t much fitting to it, that part is wrong. And most of the parts are black.
A high end AR may be good looking, I find them all to be, but the quality is in the shooting. Like many Benchrest rifles, they are prettiest when shooting small.
I have a $4k+ AR. It’s black, and looks like all the other ones, can’t even see the titanium parts, but it IS higher quality and worth it.
Between those three offers, I’d take the Knights Armament as expensive, but all those are hard use expensive, not pretty and accurate expensive.(But they are gorgeous to me.)
JP Customs rifles are accurate high end, but look like the inside of a truck, I think.

That which makes the custom AR great is that you, yourself, can be the craftsman, if you want. Photo-realistic painted roses for you handguard? You got it.
Zombie-slayer your thing? Done.
DaVinci’s Vitruvian Man motif? Okay.
A mirrored left and right set of matching rifles? Can do.
Super light? Yes. Ultra match heavy? Definitely.
Hey, we even got ‘em in wood stocks!:cool:

Oh did you want accurate more than anything? White Oak has that in spades. Buy what ever lower looks good to you, or fits you well, and pin an accurate upper to it for instant match competitiveness.

ARs aren’t just custom, they’re Bespoke!:)
(Provided you stay within platform specifications.;))


For the record, you’ll get more jealous eyes while holding the Knights…:cool:
(At least from me.:oops:)
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I have not gotten into high end AR’s. But I have 6-8 Bear Creek Arsenal Uppers with BCG, tons of Poverty Pony (Anderson) lowers, Tons of $30 LPK, Areo stripped uppers lowers, Barrel of all flavor, calibers from .223 to .50 Beowolf. I bought everything on Sale as they came up. Usually free shipping and such. I probably spent $3,500 of everything.

So, 1 high end AR
or
8 Fun AR’s that you build and have fun and don’t worry about scratching and dinging it up.
 
Mark_Mark said:
I have not gotten into high end AR’s. But I have 6-8 Bear Creek Arsenal Uppers with BCG, tons of Poverty Pony (Anderson) lowers, Tons of $30 LPK, Areo stripped uppers lowers, Barrel of all flavor, calibers from .223 to .50 Beowolf. I bought everything on Sale as they came up. Usually free shipping and such. I probably spent $3,500 of everything.

So, 1 high end AR
or
8 Fun AR’s that you build and have fun and don’t worry about scratching and dinging it up.
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Been there done that. In process of selling the last of my PSA & BCA stuff. Never had any issues with any of it, but I am consolidating my collection with a few really nice higher end firearms vs a ton of that sort of stuff in the safe.


I am looking for something very accurate, reliable and ideally lighter than my Stag. I know the MR556 is not light. Accurate and reliable are the 2 I am most concerned with. With optic & light, my Stag weighs 8.4 lbs
 
Pew-Pew said:
Been there done that. In process of selling the last of my PSA & BCA stuff. Never had any issues with any of it, but I am consolidating my collection with a few really nice higher end firearms vs a ton of that sort of stuff in the safe.


I am looking for something very accurate, reliable and ideally lighter than my Stag. I know the MR556 is not light. Accurate and reliable are the 2 I am most concerned with. With optic & light, my Stag weighs 8.4 lbs
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I’m not done yet! I love have a million guns for no reason other than to looking at it.

I think having high end guns to look at and shoot, and have a ton junk load of what ever guns is a great compromise
 
Mark_Mark said:
So, 1 high end AR
or
8 Fun AR’s that you build and have fun and don’t worry about scratching and dinging it up.
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Or five $2k ARs that I still don’t mind using and scratching up.
I wear a $1800 1911 in a holster when I shoot it.
I find much of my beauty in the use of fine equipment, though the visage of a Hofer Hummingbird is not lost on me.;)

I agree with the building part as well. Picking and choosing individual, reputable pieces. When more of the cost goes straight to parts the sum of the whole becomes much greater. My completely nitrided, gas adjust Blackout would have been much more than the $800 it cost me.
 
Have you thought about the Sig MCX 5.56 rifle? I recently got one and it's a very nice rifle... I put a Leupold RDS and Knights Armament front and rear iron sights on it. It shoots pretty good for having a thin-ish barrel on it. I shot 60rds at a moderate pace and it still held reasonable size groups. I was shooting a mix of Lake City m193 and Ammo Inc 55gr fmj. The Ammo Inc stuff is new to me and I'm impressed with the performance. I'll have to find some BTHP stuff by them and try it out.
 
I think I have it narrowed down to JP, Wilson Combat or maybe Geissele, but I think Geissele will lose due to 1:7 twist. I'm thinking go with 1:8
 
I’d get a left handed Stag receiver, bolt and two new pencil weight barrels.
But I’m weird and like to face my kids when we shoot. A lefty AR would be novel.

Here’s some ideas.
https://www.jprifles.com/1.2.1_CTR02_EE.php

https://www.bauer-precision.com/rifles/?sort=featured&page=1


>Oops, should have hit post this morning before the birthday party. I see you have good taste as well.:D<
Pew-Pew said:
I think I have it narrowed down to JP, Wilson Combat or maybe Geissele, but I think Geissele will lose due to 1:7 twist. I'm thinking go with 1:8
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Don’t get to wrapped around the axle with twist rate. I have a 30” 1/7 barrel that shoots fifty grain V-Max blisteringly fast into one hole, completely intact. Find the rifle with a spec sheet that is attractive to you and worry less so about the barrel.
Alternatively, I worry about what barrel I would put into the upper.
White Oak Armament allows you to choose the premium barrel manufacturer you prefer before they expertly set it into the upper, with a matching headspaced bolt.
They don’t, however, look like the premium rifle. They will appear a little mismatched even, a stainless bull barrel with a standard looking handguard. Yet they have many awards and titles won by their rifles. Premium in every sense, right?

As varied the answers to this whole thread is the answer to just what AR is higher end.
The best part, it will only matter to you.:thumbup:
 
Remington1911 said:
I know this was in fun, but think long and hard about carrying a fancy gun. God forbid you have to use it, it is going to end up in a property room, in a box, likely for years. And sit there just like when you handed it over at the scene. Wet or mud on it, you bet and it will stay there.
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I'll never understand this thought process. I dont give a crap if I do lose a multi-thousand dollar gun, as it was worth every cent paid if I am still breathing.
If its reliable and you are proficient, cost should be the absolute last determining factor.
 
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tarosean said:
I'll never understand this thought process. I dont give a crap if I do lose a multi-thousand dollar gun, as it was worth every cent paid if I am still breathing.
If its reliable and you are proficient cost should be the absolute last determining factor.
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I carry my guns that I shoot best! Don’t care how much it cost because my Families life, my life, people’s life are Priceless
 
Pew-Pew said:
I've been thinking, a lot of what I have are budget builds. They all go bang are do what I need them to just like more expensive stuff. However, there's just something about owning the higher end stuff I suppose. I also own brand like Remington Mossberg, Stag, Springfield, etc so I don't have a safe full of only inexpensive stuff.

I haven't narrowed it down to what type of "higher end" firearm(s) I am after. I likely won't make it a standard AR, but I could see it end up being some sort of AR pistol. Shotgun? Possibly, but my shotguns are what I shoot the least.

I want to keep it 9mm, .223/5.56, 22LR or .40 S&W. I would consider .45 if it is a 1911, but would I be fine with a higher end 9mm 1911 or should that be .45 no matter what?

I know I want a .22LR lever gun & 1911.
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Just got one of these. CMMG Banshee in .40 S&W. Put on an EOTech. Super accurate, reliable and fun out to a little over 125 yds.

All up this ran me right at $3K with the EOTech, InForce light and a bunch of mags. Tip: Fill the 31 rd mags to 25 rds each for reliability.

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Doubletap makes a 200 gr. that runs just about 1200 fps out of this beast:



btw. They do make it in 10mm and several other calibers. I got .40 S&W because of what ammo I had, ammo cost and availability.
 
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SharpDog said:
Just got one of these. CMMG Banshee in .40 S&W. Put on an EOTech. Super accurate, reliable and fun out to a little over 125 yds.

All up this ran me right at $3K with the EOTech, InForce light and a bunch of mags. Tip: Fill the 31 rd mags to 25 rds each for reliability.

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Doubletap makes a 200 gr. that runs just about 1200 fps out of this beast:



btw. They do make it in 10mm and several other calibers. I got .40 S&W because of what ammo I had, ammo cost and availability.
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that thing is compact! glade you didn’t do the boring 9mm
 
SharpDog said:
Just got one of these. CMMG Banshee in .40 S&W. Put on an EOTech. Super accurate, reliable and fun out to a little over 125 yds.

All up this ran me right at $3K with the EOTech, InForce light and a bunch of mags. Tip: Fill the 31 rd mags to 25 rds each for reliability.

View attachment 1068799







Doubletap makes a 200 gr. that runs just about 1200 fps out of this beast:



btw. They do make it in 10mm and several other calibers. I got .40 S&W because of what ammo I had, ammo cost and availability.
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Hey, thanks for reminding me I want a Kriss Vector. Maybe one day I can justify that buy. I did just buy a Scorpion EVO 3. Local shop had a used Vector for about $1,100. I had self-control that day
 
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