sabbfan
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For those mentioning the BLR and Long Ranger an advantage a straight pull would have over them is shooting from prone, hard to work the lever and keep your sight picture when in the prone position.
Anyone know about Savage Impulse straight-pull bolt action rifle?
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I wouldn’t call it ground breaking as they didn’t innovate the straight pull action but it is different than other stuff they offer and for that reason alone they will sell some and after all that is the main goal.
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The German government forced SIG and Blaser to pull the rifle from the market as it was deemed to be a military weaponAll of my AR’s are straight pull and faster than turn bolts.
Years ago I played with a Sig rifle that used the Blazer collet style straight pull action. I liked the caliber swap capability. Not enough to buy one myself though.
I would much prefer the collet over the ball bearings the Savage impulse uses.
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Here is the subject ....
Anyone know about Savage Impulse straight-pull bolt action rifle?
Vern Humphrey
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My response was in reply to the claim, "Lever action rifles are not generally found in popular cartridges for bolt guns. Like 30-06, .308, 6.5CM, 7MM RM and on and on."
Jim Watson
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The Colt-Sauer has hinged locking lugs that drop flush with the bolt handle is raised (not straight pull), lets the cylindrical bolt cycle smoothly and easily, and the lugs cam back out into engagement when the handle is lowered. A friend bought one because it was pretty, kewl, and smooth. But could not bring himself to shoot it because he did not feel confident in his heart that the separate locking lugs would engage every time.
The Mauser 96 bolt handle is very far forward, the one I handled did not feel like it would be particularly fast to get hold of and stroke. Practice would help.
The videos of Mauser and Savage do not show anybody making use of the straight pull action's speed; you gotta learn that you are not going to poke yourself in the eye and stay on the stock.
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I owned an R-93 Blazer for a short time. The theoretical advantages of a straight pull do not override the safety issues in my opinion. In any case I’ll wait a couple of years before I’d shoot any new to the market straight pull rifle. Here are some pictures of victims of R-93 bolt failures.
.455_Hunter
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It's interesting how many people gush over the Blaser platform on the African Hunting forum. For the cost, there are MANY other rifles I would prefer to own.
Riomouse911
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I have one in .270. Fast on the reload and 1” accurate with plain-Jane green/yellow 130 gr Rem Core-Lokt rounds.
I couldn’t be happier with this straight pull bolt gun, they really are pretty cool.
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Speedo66
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I'm all for an ambidextrous bolt action. Dedicated left handed guns are tough to find, and tough to get rid of. Plus, this design could be easily used by different handed members of the same family.
As far as being a copy of something, there are very few new designs that don't pay homage to some design of the past.
As far as being a copy of something, there are very few new designs that don't pay homage to some design of the past.
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Speedo66
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Some quick detachable sling swivels use that design.
That is not a Savage Impulse. Savage is not known for exploding rifles and I seriously doubt they would bring to market a rifle that would explode in the shooter's face. It is not a rear locking bolt and it is not going to catastrophically fail in such a manner as depicted.
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I’ll not argue with you and I’ll still wait and see if they develop any issues over time. It’s a personal preference thing for me.
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I was in the ER getting a dislocated finger set into place when I replied earlier, I did not carefully read your reply until now. So I’d like to take this opportunity to learn from you what the differences are between the 14 Lug radial action of the R-93 and the Savage straight pull action are? I’m sure that Blazer also did not intend to build a rifle that would so violently fail, yet they do. The whole straight pull action thing kind of gives me the willies because if they do fail they can only go one direction and that is straight back into your face.
I am all ears, please educate me?
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How many R 95's do you hear about failing??? I believe they fixed the 93's design problems...
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You claim "personal preference" but then attempt to extrapolate the Savage design as dangerous by comparing it to a rifle from another company that has a different design. Savage has done plenty of product development testing leading up to the introduction. If it is a "personal preference" that is good by me, but you are backing your preference up with a weak analogy of two different rifles. If you do not like the rifle, do not buy it. Your comparison to another rifle is as if all lever guns are the same or all semi-autos are the same, well, they are not and neither is this Savage.
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Absolutely false, I didn’t extrapolate anything. I said I’m not a fan of straight pull actions. That’s my preference. If you don’t know what the technical differences between the 93 action and the Savage action are just say so.
When you mentioned “rear locking” actions I thought you might have known a thing or two about the differences. Is an R-93 a “rear locking” action?
I asked you to please explain the difference between the actions but you chose to make a personal attack instead. From your response is it safe to say you have no idea what the design differences are between the two?
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I haven’t heard any issues with the R-8 blowing peoples faces off. But I have heard of some locking up issues in the larger calibers. I’d sure like to know what was failing and why and how the Savage is different. I’m not attacking Savage in any way.
Blazer was super tight lipped about the issues with the 93 to the point that they claimed there wasn’t an issue so it’s hard to say exactly what was failing and why.
troy fairweather
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I don't think the savage will be any fast, I think it maybe actually slower then a good turnbolt. It's clear from the videos the length of the bolt is to long and you lose your check weld. That and I think the action is not as smooth as there saying, they videos are edited in a strange way looks like it takes a very hard yank to unlock the action.
DM~
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The road test I'm seeing on the Savage are saying, strong and fast...
My biggest complaint is, yeaaa the bolt can be rotated to the left side, but the rest of the action is still right hand!
BTW, I like the idea of it and would buy one if they made it in true LH.
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My biggest complaint is, yeaaa the bolt can be rotated to the left side, but the rest of the action is still right hand!
BTW, I like the idea of it and would buy one if they made it in true LH.
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You don't REALLY believe the straight pull was designed for the precision folks do you??? REAL precision shooters aren't using "stock" actions to begin with...
Lets say it the way it REALLY is, it's to save money by catering to the RH shooters and hoping to bring some LH shooters in, along the way.
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The Blaser is very accurate as a hunting rifle. However there are a lot of precision rifles now on the market. The Blaser Tactical 2 is extremely accurate.
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/blaser-lrs-2/
https://old.weaponsystems.net/weaponsystem/AA05 - R-93.html
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Every one of those calibers is available in the Browning BLR. I can personally assure you the BLR is much faster than a turn bolt and just as accurate. Caveat, after you get the trigger tuned by Neil Jones.
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