Just tell it like it is, no rationalizations.

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Example rationalizations:
I live in a good area.
Nobody want to (volunteer to) get shot with it.
Better than nothing
The Extreme Nuclear 32 acp does bazillion damage to gel

Example truths:
It is the best I'm willing to carry (not work)
It is the best I can carry (work)
I have a physical limitation
A 32 acp in my pocket is the best I'm willing/able to do.

Who else would rather simply see posted truths > rationalizations :)
 
CDW4ME said:
It is the best I can carry (work)
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CDW4ME said:
A 32 acp in my pocket is the best I'm able to do.
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These two.

Acute situational awareness coupled with surprising, decisive use of violence with tools one is familiar with will beat out posturing with 38 rounds of 400 Megablaster.

But his one is fallacy.
CDW4ME said:
Better than nothing
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Even a 22lr is, literally by definition, better than nothing.
On the continuum of weaponry from nothing but fists and teeth, all the way to, to, oh what’s that cliche about the plasma thing? Anyway, yes it is better than nothing, better than fists and teeth and harsh words, not as good as a howitzer, but more portable in pants.

What pains me is the thought of a firearm as the only weapon. Humans make weapons as tools that denote them different than animals. Even I am not unarmed without a pistol. Yeah, a 31 caliber hole six inches deep in a humans face is usually lethal, but so is a hammer, a knife, a well placed kick, even thumbs applied appropriately. Obviously the pistols delivery system makes it easier, up to a point…

Like when it can’t bet brought at all. I can’t be the nice guy if I’m the scary guy because they noticed a gun.

But I do get what you’re playing at, I don’t carry a whoopee cushion as protection.:D
 
What I wan to know is why you hate the
32 Auto so?
Come on! Out with it!
Did some jerk with an old Walther steal your girl?
Slide bite from a VZ?
Slip on a 32 case and do the splits while everyone was watching at the range and ripped your pants?
Is it the Nazi thing?
Embarrassing inaccuracy while with a partner?


What ever is was, he didn’t mean it. He’s really a nice caliber, and not at all as ineffective as portrayed. Hate the game, not the player, man.:D
 
It would be nice to see less rationalization.
Its not going to happen, people need to justify publicly why they, perhaps irrationally claim as fact something that may be a great option to them regardless of fact, or provable opinion otherwise.
If you think that a .22 is a reliable self defense item, go ahead, its your proclaimed stance. Dont rationalization, stand by your decision and state a case. Oh....not trying to point fingers at .22 guys, just as an example
 
1) Decisions are one big rationalization. They're different for all of us. Worry about yourself.

2) I compete in traditional bullseye pistol matches. I know for a fact that I can put .22 out of a Ruger Mk II where I want it, much better than I can put a .45 from my 1911.

3) Most American gun owners will drop dead from a clogged artery long before they need to draw their sidearm. Consider going for a jog.
 
I carry what I am proficient, confident and comfortable with. I think every other CCW person should be of similar mindset, too.

Since you’re asking for honesty, I’ll be brutally honest…I really don’t care one iota what anyone else thinks about my choices in carry guns, calibers, holsters, etc. ;)

Stay safe.
 
So the OP does not believe the reasons some people give for carrying whatever gun they carry. He calls those reasons "extreme rationalizations". He expects those people to admit that the reasons he lists, or something like them, are real reasons. In fact, he just goes ahead and calls his reasons "truths".

Personally, I may argue with someone about their given reasons, but I don't question if they are the actual reasons. But then, I don't like to give people a reason to be annoyed with me.

To give the OP an example of how his question might be annoying, I would ask him if he really expected people to admit they had been pretending about their reasons, or if he just wanted to get a rise out of people. See how that could be considered offensive?
 
Demi-human said:
What I wan to know is why you hate the
32 Auto so?
Come on! Out with it!
Did some jerk with an old Walther steal your girl?
Slide bite from a VZ?
Slip on a 32 case and do the splits while everyone was watching at the range and ripped your pants?
Is it the Nazi thing?
Embarrassing inaccuracy while with a partner?


What ever is was, he didn’t mean it. He’s really a nice caliber, and not at all as ineffective as portrayed. Hate the game, not the player, man.:D
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Hey now, .32 ACP is just a red herring. The real issue is .25 ACP and .22 rimfire. o_O
 
Boarhunter said:
I always have a 22 in my pocket, and I feel no obligation to explain, justify, or rationalize my decision.

BOARHUNTER

Ps: I usually have a larger caliber pistol on my belt because I can, but I do not feel particularly vulnerable when I do not.
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One of my life's excursions was being a " grunt " for a " bail jumper " finder ( bounty hunter ) during which time became friends ( ?? ) With a nice widow lady and on one occasion due to lots of happy juice ( pink champagne ) informed me her late ( heart failure ) husband admitted to her he had been, was, a hit man killing more than 500 people world-wide, said he used 22 short ammo fireing thru back of head, death was instant, told her where to find all records and DESTORY, burn everything, did as he asked, she was HORRIFIED at what she found. About ten years later she died of civical cancer, she did tell me on the surface he was the kindest most gentle person ever. You never know.
 
Been carrying a late model Detective Special lately because I think it is neat. May carry something totally different in a week or two.
 
Demi-human said:
These two.

Acute situational awareness coupled with surprising, decisive use of violence with tools one is familiar with will beat out posturing with 38 rounds of 400 Megablaster.

But his one is fallacy.

Even a 22lr is, literally by definition, better than nothing.
On the continuum of weaponry from nothing but fists and teeth, all the way to, to, oh what’s that cliche about the plasma thing? Anyway, yes it is better than nothing, better than fists and teeth and harsh words, not as good as a howitzer, but more portable in pants.

What pains me is the thought of a firearm as the only weapon. Humans make weapons as tools that denote them different than animals. Even I am not unarmed without a pistol. Yeah, a 31 caliber hole six inches deep in a humans face is usually lethal, but so is a hammer, a knife, a well placed kick, even thumbs applied appropriately. Obviously the pistols delivery system makes it easier, up to a point…

Like when it can’t bet brought at all. I can’t be the nice guy if I’m the scary guy because they noticed a gun.

But I do get what you’re playing at, I don’t carry a whoopee cushion as protection.:D
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Some of these posts make me ROLL on the floor laughing my phistaris off, really tear's rolling down the face funny.
 
There really should be no argument. What one chooses to use is based on their particular physical(Hand size, strength, body shape) and financial concerns, matched with *hopefully* researched comparisons. Learning all about the one they choose and TRAINING not just practicing will determine the results. Then they have no reason to rationalize or explain themselves to anyone.
 
Champ0608 writes:

Most American gun owners will drop dead from a clogged artery long before they need to draw their sidearm.
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They're also far more likely to be killed in a traffic collision.

How do you all rationalize your choice in what you drive your loved ones around in? Would some say no less than an MRAP?

Good neighborhood? Too big for the parking lot at work? Maybe an up-armored HMMWV might be acceptable (since this is THR, keep the fifty, though.)

But, nothing less than a standard armored van, fitted with appropriate restraints and onboard fire suppression, right?

I mean, it's all about what you're willing to do, right?

Seriously, whatever you choose to do is literally all you're willing to do, but someone else has done more.
 
Riomouse911 said:
I carry what I am proficient, confident and comfortable with. I think every other CCW person should be of similar mindset, too.

Since you’re asking for honesty, I’ll be brutally honest…I really don’t care one iota what anyone else thinks about my choices in carry guns, calibers, holsters, etc. ;)

Stay safe.
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That pretty well sums up my feelings on the matter. :thumbup: I have made my choice and don't feel a need to even talk about it.
 
What some say as a statement of fact, others may call rationalizations.

Pick your poison.
There are plenty of options and most all of them are bad in one way or another.

Many people out there try to help without realizing they are making things worse. Which led to me learning a new word. Verschlimmbesserung
 
champ0608 said:
1) Decisions are one big rationalization. They're different for all of us. Worry about yourself.
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Somebody posts what they carry on a discussion forum, its a reasonable expectation that someone may subsequently discuss it.
Example: I say, "I carry a Glock 19 wherever".
Someone asks: Really? Even walking the dogs?
You think an appropriate response is: "Worry about yourself" o_O

Why post what you do if you don't want to potentially talk about it?

 
I lived for a few years in a very bad area a little bit outside of Port au Prince. It resulted in me not giving a damn about the opinions of others, especially the tactical dudes, but rely on my own judgement, training, and experience.
 
Demi-human said:
What I wan to know is why you hate the 32 Auto so?
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I don't hate 32 acp nor would I carry it, don't have to.
32 acp carried exclusively in NPE anit the same as carrying one out of convenience. Why not just say it (the reason)?
Since I used it as an example in OP I'll do so again.
Someone says they "feel comfortable" carrying a 32, in reality they are not willing to put forth more effort than sticking a 32 in pocket. (Just say that up front)
 
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