ETS magazines dedicated strictly to range use

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I once vouched for the reliability of ETS magazines and used them alot in a few different glocks. I have used over a dozen of them and even carried them as spares for my carry guns. I liked that they were translucent and once held them in high regard fot reliability, zero failures, but unfortunately lately I've encountered a few magazines that have given me problems and my mind is changed.

I'm glad I figured this out at the range and not at a critical moment because the failure would have put me in alot of trouble and I soon after found that it wasn't just one magazine prone to critical failure. The magazine springs bind up and take your gun out of the fight and no amount of tapping and smacking will release the spring.

I know most people carry OEM as well they should, but for anybody considering these clear ETS mags for carry, keep the above in mind. It's a bummer too because I have pulled my ETS mags from their accompanying G19 and G43. I liked having the 9rd or 12rd magazine as a spare for my G43 but no more of that. I got some Vickers +2's for my G43 mags to bump up the mag cap to 8 and that will have to do.

As of now the only magazines I completely 100% trust are OEM and Magpul. The ETS mags are kind of a disappointment and are no longer fit to serve as spares. Only range use, although the last time I used them at the range they frustrated the bejeezus out of me.
 
Thanks for the info!

I don't own any ETS mags. All of my Glocks use OEM. I do have a ridiculously long 10mm mag for my G29 that is of unknown manufacture. It's around 25 rounds and is in my survival/hiking pack solely as an easy way to carry emergency rounds while in the woods.

Never had an issue with OEM Glock and never been tempted to save a few bucks and buy aftermarket.
 
I have had good luck with them but always wondered about longevity.

How old were the problem mags ? Did they see alot of use ?
 
I havent used the ETS mags, use the OEM's and a couple of Magpuls for carry, and KCI/Kahn Korean mags for practice. All of which have been a 100% in all but the extended versions. The maker that seems to excel there is Magpul.

Ive been shooting the same lot of about 20 KCI mags weekly for about 12 years or so now, and at this point, Id trust them the same as OEM mags. Never had a problem with them, and they get used hard and a lot. They were only $5 when I started buying them, and have pretty much doubled in price since, but still, $9 vs $20 something is still a deal. The Magpuls are a great deal as well.
 
I’m really impressed with Magpul Glock magazines. At the range, I can’t get one to malfunction. I still use oem Glock magazines for carry though.

I recently bought a couple of Amend 2 magazines for a G43. They did not perform well. After one use, literally 6 rounds fired, they would no longer keep rounds in the magazine. The feed lips wore and rounds would spit out.
 
The only ETS magazines I have used are the 7 and 9 round G43 mags. And they make great range/training mags since you will be doing stoppage/clearing drills when using them.
 
I use ETS mags in my 9mm PCC rifle. So far they have worked great in practice and at matches. I reload so I keep the over all length on the short side so maybe that helps. I mainly use the 31 and 40 round mags.
 
I would also like to know how old/ much use your problem ETS mags are. Was considering buying a few for my HK VP9SK as they are $14.99 each compared to $49.99each for OEM. I have 2 OEM mags, still may be worth while to buy a few ETS mags for range time.
 
I agree that we need to know numbers shot per mag before the spring binds.

I have 2 types of ETS magazines: G42 and P320. The G42 magazines have about 400 rounds each: I have 5 and shot about 2000 rounds since switching to them. They always provided an outstanding service, never an issue of any kind. Worked with Russian ammunition, too. Of course, the longevity of them was unknown and I was very interested in it, since I'm heavily invested in them. In fact, I trusted ETS enough that modified one of my G42 in such a way that it only accepts ETS magazines now, not OEM magazines.

The ETS P320 magazines were not exactly a match for factory magazines (which themselves vary somewhat as SIG use 3 different vendors). One of them had to be exchanged and I paid for shipping. In particular, they were fatter than standard metal magazines and did not drop free (it was a little more complicated: they would drop if slide was closed - something I noted the youtubers like Sootch and Graham Baates checked for some reason; but of course I'm interested in them dropping when the slide is locked back, and that did not work on ETS magazines for P320).
 
I tried an ETS magazine for a 45ACP PCC. It wouldn't even insert when empty. I returned it and got a refund promptly, but I wouldn't buy another.
 
Another vote for Magpul. I have always bought and used Glock OEM magazines but after being happy with PMags for ARs, I bought some Magpul magazines for my Glocks and they have been 100% reliable.
 
All I use is factory mags for my Glocks. I ended up with a couple of some type of Asian import clones and they were very unreliable- I ended up tossing them in the trash can at the range. Same for a PMAG I got as a gift at SHOT show.
 
It happened with a 24 rd 9mm mag that was fairly new but sat loaded for a long time and it was my guess that it was just a fluke thing and needed to be broken in to work properly although my other ETS mags worked well from the start. That 24rd mag had been loaded with wolf. Not long after the 12 round magazine for my 43 bound up as did a 17rd mag (also wolf).

I could only guess as to how many rounds went through the 17rd mag before failure because I have a few of them and they are identical but it's at least a couple hundred rounds, maybe more. The 12rd mag for the 43, probably 150-200rds.
 
All I use is factory mags for my Glocks. I ended up with a couple of some type of Asian import clones and they were very unreliable- I ended up tossing them in the trash can at the range. Same for a PMAG I got as a gift at SHOT show.

I've actually found the Korean made KCI mags to be more reliable than the MagPul mags. Both are used for range use. I get more stoppage drill training with the MagPul mags. The KCI mags have actually worked well for me with no issues. I still stick with OEM for EDC though.

Back to ETS magazines. The three I tried would not work in an older OEM G43, my SS80 frame or PF9SS frame. And ETS customer service leaves a lot of room for improvement. They instantly wanted to blame my aftermarket 80% frames even though I stated that their mags would NOT even work in my OEM G43 either. They had me send them in twice (on my dime) only to return the same mags to me that still did not work. They wanted me to send them back a third time for a refund but again I had to pay for return shipping. They sit in a drawer to remind me to never buy anything from ETS ever again.
 
After shooting 650,000+ pistol rounds during much of past 30 years, I have even seen Glock OEM magazines fail. Yes, Glock OEM magazines.

To me, there are many "consumable" parts on guns that through normal use, simply wear out to require replacement.

When Glock OEM magazines become unreliable, it's often due to worn spring and/or mag follower and I have replaced them with Glock OEM mag followers (Newer followers have better angle cuts) and extra power Wolff mag springs.
 
I've said this multiple times and nobody seems to backup what my experience has been in that ETS mags are best used in blowback carbines. I've had issues using them in pistols, but in PCC's not one single failure I can blame on the magazine.
 
I will still use them. I bought about a dozen 31's years ago when I was planning on getting a PCC. I have 10+ ETS 31's and 10+ OEM 33's, I have more invested in mags for my anticipatory carbine than it would have cost to buy the PCC that I never bought. I felt the pressure when 2018 legislation was passed banning future sales of handgun magazines exceeding 15rds. I need to get on the PC carbine. I have never used those high cap stick mags for anything and absent a PCC, likely never will.
 
I've said this multiple times and nobody seems to backup what my experience has been in that ETS mags are best used in blowback carbines. I've had issues using them in pistols, but in PCC's not one single failure I can blame on the magazine.

If I had a PCC that took Glock magazines I would definitely give ETS mags another try. As it is, my only two PCC's are an AR 9mm that uses Colt mags and a Hi Point 4095.
 
I pushed a friend into ETS 21X9 and found them not reliable in her G34. We passed them on to a shooter who likes the brand and has no trouble with them.
I have a 17X9 that is ok in my G17 but it only gets out for GSSF.
 
I have several ets and sgm higher cap Glock mags for carbine. Even from New they haven't been 100%. The ets failed more regularly than the sgm. The Glock higher capacity mags have ran 100%. The sgm have failed a couple times. The clear ets and the kci were pretty bad in my guns using factory winchester rangers and hst duty ammo.

Strictly speaking of 30+ rounders
 
When I bought my police surplus G22, I bought a few magazines. One is an ETS 24rd .40 mag. So far, no problems, but I haven’t used it a lot. It’s been loaded a few months.
 
Only problem I had with ETS mags was when improperly stored and the base was knocked off. If being used for defensive purposes the base needs to be replaced with a sturdier option.
 
I have several ets and sgm higher cap Glock mags for carbine. Even from New they haven't been 100%. The ets failed more regularly than the sgm. The Glock higher capacity mags have ran 100%. The sgm have failed a couple times. The clear ets and the kci were pretty bad in my guns using factory winchester rangers and hst duty ammo.

Strictly speaking of 30+ rounders
Try using FMJ and not JHP see if there's a difference.
 
My PCC has melted the feed lips on them before, and I also had the feed issue with one. If Glock would pull thier heads out of thier <edit> and make metal OEM mags, I'd use those.
 
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