That seems awful hot to me as a load you sure that’s in spec and not what someone somewhere just happened to work up that has no pressure testing equipment like the big boys do?????
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Never said the.creed was the ultimate cartridge
I said its plenty of gun for any north american big game animal, you do not need 1500 ft lbs of energy to kill an elk /1000ft lbs for deer if that was the FACT THEN
Guys shooting sharp sticks handguns, and m/l
Have been doing it wrong all this time
Fact is out to 600 yrds the creed will do anything the big 7& 30 calibers will on elk and out to 700+ on deer size game its been done
Creed is the new kid on the block and the old bullies dont like the fact hes in town and not going away
No- it won’t be faster at 300 yards. I would take a 270 over a creedmore, but long ago put my 270 away in favor of the 300WM, and later the 300 PRC. Why? Because elk are big animals, and even with the .270 I was wishing for more power at any range. A .270 is not more than adequate for elk it’s the minimum in many states. I would highly recommend a more powerful cartridge. I base this on taking many elk with a .270 and all inside of 500 yards which was my limit with that rifle. I don’t like the 6.5 caliber for elk period. Sure it will kill them, just maybe not when you want it to. If I was somehow limited to 6.5 it would be a PRC or WM, but I am glad that I don’t have to.The 6.5 CM shoots the same bullet weights as 270 (6.8mm) about 150-200 fps slower at the muzzle. But the better aerodynamics of the 6.5 bullets mean it will be impacting at the same speeds, or faster than a 270 at some point beyond 200 yards. It will penetrate a little deeper than 270 assuming the same bullet construction due to the better sectional densities.
In a nutshell a 140 gr 6.5 bullet does pretty much anything a 150 gr 270 bullet does on game. And a 150 gr 270 bullet is considered more than adequate for elk, moose or bear.
The 6.5CM is the smallest cartridge I'd feel comfortable using for game larger than deer, but I'd use it on any animal in the lower 48.
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The guy holding up this cow's head killed her with one shot from a 6.5 CM at a lasered 849 yards. He's an honest to pete heck of a marksman. And maybe just a little bit of a show off. But as they say, it's not bragging if you can do it. Talking about the 6.5 CM of course.
That seems awful hot to me as a load you sure that’s in spec and not what someone somewhere just happened to work up that has no pressure testing equipment like the big boys do?????
My 260 holds a bit more powder than the Creed, but the ONLY time I see 2900 fps is when I am shooting 120 grain bullets (or lighter). I hit 2800 or so with a 130 Accubond. Can't do it with a 140. Probably not even with a 26 inch tube.
Don't feel bad, my .260's kind of lame too
It's exactly where I want it. I have a 300 Magnum if I feel like punishing stuff on both ends of the barrel. I could write some sci fi like the creed boys tend to do, but I actually like medium mild cartridges.
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The guy holding up this cow's head killed her with one shot from a 6.5 CM at a lasered 849 yards. He's an honest to pete heck of a marksman. And maybe just a little bit of a show off. But as they say, it's not bragging if you can do it. Talking about the 6.5 CM of course.
We drove up to all four of them.Nice to drive up next to that Elk
Same here.
Mine's got a 20" barrel to boot. I like it because it's light and compact, great for binds and stands. I even handicapped it further by mounting a 2.5-8x with a plain old duplex.
We seem to have the same tastes. Mine has a 22" tube and walnut. It weighs 7.8 lbs with glass. I have a 2-8 x 36mm Weaver Grand Slam with a plain old duplex.
What did you do in the Black Horse Regiment?