A new trend I noticed

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I have seen the trend. I have also told folks to pound sand. I have taught a couple folks. One guy has somebody using an automated loader using any supplied components and recipe and essentially renting out the equipment by the hour, but he has never actually pushed the run button. He has asked repeatedly about getting my recipes. I shoot a pic of some data available online and verbally say something along the lines of “try 1/2 or 2/3 of the way up the range”. All of it is questionable in a courtroom, so no matter what is said or done bases are covered and the data ultimately came from a published source.

that last one is legally interesting if slightly shifted. If the “customer” goes and hits the run button, they are technically the machine operator so they are loading their own ammo. This is very much like the cigarette rolling machines at the tobacco shops where you dump in your loose tobacco and chunk in a $5 and it takes off making your cigarettes in bulk. I don’t see how that escapes the taxes of fully manufactured goods but it does. You still leave the store with 300 completely rolled cigarettes… or 223 ammo.
 
It is very annoying. Sell me some ammo, sell me some ammo. No! I need what I have and I usually say it pretty crappy too because it’s the same people over and over again.
 
People couldn't start reloading these days even if they wanted to and I'm not sharing my powder and primers. Too little to late. About 2 years to late.

If things ever get back to something that looks like 2018 that would be the time to buy some gear/components and learn to reload. Will they do it? I doubt it. They probably don't cook any meals at home either.
 
gifbohane said:
I owned a drycleaning store many years ago. I did a favor for a dear friend and used to clean and press all his family's clothing for free.

After a year or so, one of his wife's silk blouses got ruined. I had to buy her a brand new one and our families never spoke again.

I will never hand one of my reloads to anyone.
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no good deed goes unpunished!
 
enine said:
Do they want you to drive them to the range and buy them lunch too?
With all the ammo shortages I can see them asking you to help them get some, but not offering anything for your help is not being a good friend.
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I can’t stand it when People want you to convince them into something your passionate about!

They are like “Oh yeah, is it dangerous, will I blow up, I don’t know”
 
CoalTrain49 said:
People couldn't start reloading these days even if they wanted to and I'm not sharing my powder and primers. Too little to late. About 2 years to late.

If things ever get back to something that looks like 2018 that would be the time to buy some gear/components and learn to reload. Will they do it? I doubt it. They probably don't cook any meals at home either.
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I love this roast of non reloader! like we are in a sports club cheer on ourselves
 
Mark_Mark said:
Poor #1, I know she can handle it, but nobody deserves a beat like that
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No kidding. Quite the chore to remove. 5/16 bolt welded to a slide hammer. Had to use a lead bar to open the action. Case still measures .010 larger than spec on most dimensions.

After taking down EVERY load that came with the rifle, I found 9 shells that were overloaded. And not a little. 10gr over any factory load in any book for any bullet. I burned all the powder. Started from scratch.
 
Grumpy_old_Fart said:
No kidding. Quite the chore to remove. 5/16 bolt welded to a slide hammer. Had to use a lead bar to open the action. Case still measures .010 larger than spec on most dimensions.

After taking down EVERY load that came with the rifle, I found 9 shells that were overloaded. And not a little. 10gr over any factory load in any book for any bullet. I burned all the powder. Started from scratch.
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10gn OVER!!! You must have P-ed him off to give you such dangerous loads

My 1#’s are my babies!!
 
FROGO207 said:
In the last couple months I have noticed a lot of shooting "friends" wanting me to sell them some of my reloads. A good bunch of them I have offered in the past to show how to reload but they never put in the effort.
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Liability is enough to scare me away.
In Oregon we can't swap firearms, to work up a load for a gun I need the gun.
 
This is just another example of how there’s only a small percentage of people who actually make things.

Reloaders usually have the ability to fix a faucet, brakes on the truck, build a fence, etc.

People begging to buy reloads, usually know where the best restaurants are and what the hottest series on Netflix is.
 
I won't provide reloads. Sure, mine are within book limits. What kinda garbage are they putting them through?
There are limits on calibers and loads. Even if I don't exceed those, I can't know the shape of the firearm it's going into.

I have seen the way people maintain their guns and it petrifies me.
 
Hartkopf said:
This is just another example of how there’s only a small percentage of people who actually make things.

Reloaders usually have the ability to fix a faucet, brakes on the truck, build a fence, etc.

People begging to buy reloads, usually know where the best restaurants are and what the hottest series on Netflix is.
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Shhhhh.
 
The story of The Little Red Hen retold.

All the little red hen's friends pig, cow, and horse, said "no" when she asked if anyone wanted to learn to reload. So, she reloaded by herself.

Then after she got everything loaded, and there were no more primers, powder, or bullets, the little red hen and her children went to the range.

Then her friends, pig, horse, and cow wanted to go to the range too. But, the little red hen said "no"
 
Had an acquaintance apologize to me for somethings he said 40 years ago.
I told him to forget it, I didn't hold it against him.

The next week he asked for ammo. :eek: o_O
I told him I'd show him how to reload, my equipment, my supplies.
All he had to do is come over & we'd make ammo.
He said no.
 
I blew up a Glock 30 years ago with one of my reloads, after that experience, (Not a pleasant one to say the least!) I don't give or let people have any reloads. If they want to learn how to reload I'd be willing to show them, but they have to provide all the components needed to make 'em. No takers on that offer, which is fine by me!
 
My nephew was the only one that asked if he could by ammo. I said no. I asked him years before all this hit how much ammo do you have and keep on hand. He said he buys it as he needs it, no stock pile. I said that's a bad idea, you need to have some inventory for when things go bad. He didn't listen like most 20yr olds. My neighbor which also hand loads got caught low on LRP. He as always bought a brick here or there as needed. He has seen be buy 10k+ at a time, multiple times. I tell him they will not likely get any cheaper and I like to keep a min of 5 yrs on hand. He as asked me for some LRP but I only have a limited supply. I keep telling him to keep looking but he does not take the time to search for them. So he has cut way back on his shooting to make what he does have last. Some never learn, some may never learn.

The neighbors I taught to hand load are in pretty good shape. I always ask one if he's needing anything when I'm stocking up on supplies. Occasionally he say yes and I just add them to my order. Pays me when they come in.
 
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