twenty pound AR

I've never got that trend. All my guns typically have at most an optic attached. The only gun with anything more than that hanging from it is my Beretta ARX-100 - that one has a vertical foregrip added because the factory front grip isn't very comfortable.

20 lbs he wont feel any recoil.

Check out Iraq 8888 videos, put everything they had in the shop on one lol.

troy fairweather said:

Check out Iraq 8888 videos, put everything they had in the shop on one lol.

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To quote him, "You cannot be awesome without this rifle." That was funny, thanks!

All of my AR rifles are about as simple as they get.



Left to right a pair of Colt SP1 rifles, the nostalgia in me. A Colt Sporter Target, an old Double Star mix master with Kreiger barrel and finally an old Armalite AR10. I do have a mount for the AR10 and original sights.




I see guns, especially rifles, much like I see trucks and motorcycles. They become sort of an extension of the owners taste. I have seen some AR types so dressed out that if my dogs had faces as ugly as some rifles I would shave their butts and walk them backwards. .Then again to each their own. Spent a week once during evenings helping a friend and neighbor dress out his motorcycle with LED lighting. When we were done he looked at me and said we will order another light set for my vintage 92 Harley Electro Glide. Nope, never going to happen, not on my ride.

And so it goes....
Ron

A red dot, small white light and a sling are all I need.

Even my target rifles are in the majority iron sighted.

A sling and sights does it for me.

I have one with the goods, a 300 blk 8" upper with a sling mount and a night vision scope, laser illuminator and a few other doodads, but that is one upper for my sbr. Most of mine get sights or a red dot and a place to put a pistol light if I need it. My bolt guns usually have slings added. I guess I just want the functional minimum.

I assembled a lower and bought a Ruger piston upper. I put a bipod on it, a red dot with a magnifier, and a light. It looked real cool…then I took it to the desert to shoot it. In short order I removed all the add ins except the backup sights. Heck, that piston upper made it heavy. All that other crap made it ridiculous.
I sold that AR soon after. I have had several, still have one. They get nothing more than sights, a red dot and maybe a sling.

I am thinking about building a rifle. That will wear a scope and a sling.

When it comes to ARs, I follow the Lotus philosophy of "Simplify and Add Lightness"

most ive PERSONALLY seen hung on one was a scope, buis, reflex sight, and light

I think a lot of people get a new toy and just want to tinker and play with it, especially younger folks, and I mean no offense by that. I’ve been very guilty of it myself, not with guns necessarily but with adding, modifying, tinkering and piddling just because I wanted to play with a new toy. It’s really useful as it’s normally a good learning experience, for more reasons than one.

But once the new wears off, and you start to actually use what you have things get made more user friendly, so to speak.

My AR10 with a 22" barrel is about the heaviest AR I own but it in no where near 20#.

I can see a purpose for almost all these things. I can’t see a purpose for all of them on the same gun.

Ive got a couple of lightweight KISS ARs and a couple that are basically crew-served weapons at this point.......

For an AR type rifle with protection in mind, the order of importance is 1- mounted light that doesn't suck (because its dark 50% of the time, you can't hit what you can't see, and failure to ID your target is a major violation of the rules of gun safety) 2- a means to aim the weapon (whether is a RDS, irons, or both), and 3- a sling of some type, so that the weapon can be secured to the user at all times. This prevents it from being dropped, left behind/picked up by someone else, and enables the user to use his/her hands for other tasks while keeping the rifle handy. Everything else is optional decorations. The only possible exception would be IR laser if NVGs are in play.

Where's the gun in jonny2guns pic???

I have about 40 guns, now. All have simple iron sights, except for my pair of Savage 23Ds in 22 Hornet. I like iron sights. I don't like everything else. Guess what's on my AR...

The accessories should be based on specific need. Leave them off until you can justify to yourself that you actually need them. And that can vary from one mission to another.

The rifle shown in post #2 by Jonny2guns, is that the new rifle being bought by the US military?