After my conversion woes with he who will not be named, I found that the Kirst conversion parts fit the older Piettas better and started looking for older guns. This 1860 came with some pretty nice wood. I think it's an `03 model.
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could you use smokeless in conversation cylinders?
well dang! Peitta conversation are 1/2 the price of Uberti! time for some PeittaHey CraigC!! The conversions work in Uberti's. I use Pietta cylinders for the length (factory length ammo).
Yes!! You can talk about them 24 / 7 !!! Lol ( don't cha love auto correct?!) But seriously folks, That's how I get to shoot these revolvers!! No bp allowed in ranges!! (I haven't shot bp in about 20 yrs.!)
Heck, while I'm here - Hey Hawg !!! Lol
Mike
Heck, while I'm here - Hey Hawg !!! Lol
could you use smokeless in conversation cylinders?
my 1858 barrel is marked BP onlyNever use smokeless in a C&B revolver!!!!
While the DYI conversion cylinders are not specifically black power only, the rest of the C&B revolver WAS made with that billboard "Black Power Only" for a reason.
From the Taylors & Company Firearms website for their conversion cylinders: "Taylor's does not recommend shooting ammunition rated above 850 fps in this conversion cylinder."
https://taylorsfirearms.com/hand-guns/cartridge-conversions.html
There are cartridges available in most popular calibers called "Cowboy Loads" that are reduced smokeless powder loads.
Check the box or maker's website for chronograph information if in doubt about a cartridge's power.
Note that Italian FACTORY conversion revolvers are not marked with the BP billboard and have the Italian proof marking for smokeless powder rather than the one for BP.
Hogwash. Kirst now makes a .45ACP conversion for the 1860. Their cylinders are rated for 1000fps. So your fears are unfounded and unsupported.Never use smokeless in a C&B revolver!!!!
While the DYI conversion cylinders are not specifically black power only, the rest of the C&B revolver WAS made with that billboard "Black Power Only" for a reason.
From the Taylors & Company Firearms website for their conversion cylinders: "Taylor's does not recommend shooting ammunition rated above 850 fps in this conversion cylinder."
https://taylorsfirearms.com/hand-guns/cartridge-conversions.html
There are cartridges available in most popular calibers called "Cowboy Loads" that are reduced smokeless powder loads.
Check the box or maker's website for chronograph information if in doubt about a cartridge's power.
Note that Italian FACTORY conversion revolvers are not marked with the BP billboard and have the Italian proof marking for smokeless powder rather than the one for BP.
Hogwash. Kirst now makes a .45ACP conversion for the 1860. Their cylinders are rated for 1000fps. So your fears are unfounded and unsupported.
Again, unfounded and unsupported. No one is going to lose an appendage. Please stop with the hysterics.Thanks CraigC, The Taylor cylinders are of the "Howell" type and obviously different (less sturdy) from the Kirst brand. Are ALL Kirst products rated to 1000fps or just the .45 ACP?
https://taylorsfirearms.com/hand-guns/cartridge-conversions/1858-remington-conversion-cylinders.html
While I could not find the specs you mention at the Kirst website, I did find them at Old South! Please note all the cautions that they too emphasize as NONE OF US wants to be responsible for someone loosing an appendage or dying!:
https://www.oldsouthfirearms.com/ki...npiettastainlesssteel45lacpgatedassembly.aspx
From above:
"All Kirst Konverters are precision CNC machined in the USA from 4140 Steel and heat-treated. The cartridge conversions are rated "For Black Powder or equivalent loads only," which includes the current Cowboy Loads on the market (Read the "Caution" Statement Below).
Caution:
1. Ammunition must be loaded with lead bullets and a low-pressure powder charge that DOES NOT EXCEED 1000 FEET PER SECOND VELOCITY!
2. NOT FOR USE IN BRASS FRAME REVOLVERS!
3. .44 and .45 caliber cylinders must NEVER BE INSTALLED IN A .36 CALIBER REVOLVER!
Follow all instructions that come with your Cylinder Assembly and Firearm. Safe shooting is your responsibility."
Thanks CraigC, The Taylor cylinders are of the "Howell" type and obviously different (less sturdy) from the Kirst brand. Are ALL Kirst products rated to 1000fps or just the .45 ACP? "
Again, unfounded and unsupported. No one is going to lose an appendage. Please stop with the hysterics.
Just quoting what the suppliers are cautioning!!!
Yap, kinda like Ruger saying no reloads . . . but we've all heard of "Ruger only" loads?
Lawyer's
Mike
Yeah, where's the admonition against smokeless powder???Just quoting what the suppliers are cautioning!!!
I can't believe you didn't catch the late bolt drop on the 58 I posted. I thought you'd say something like I need to send it to you for modernizing or something.
DANG!! I AM SLIPPING!!!
Mike
Thanks CraigC, The Taylor cylinders are of the "Howell" type and obviously different (less sturdy) from the Kirst brand. Are ALL Kirst products rated to 1000fps or just the .45 ACP?
https://taylorsfirearms.com/hand-guns/cartridge-conversions/1858-remington-conversion-cylinders.html
While I could not find the specs you mention at the Kirst website, I did find them at Old South! Please note all the cautions that they too emphasize as NONE OF US wants to be responsible for someone loosing an appendage or dying!:
https://www.oldsouthfirearms.com/ki...npiettastainlesssteel45lacpgatedassembly.aspx
From above:
"All Kirst Konverters are precision CNC machined in the USA from 4140 Steel and heat-treated. The cartridge conversions are rated "For Black Powder or equivalent loads only," which includes the current Cowboy Loads on the market (Read the "Caution" Statement Below).
Caution:
1. Ammunition must be loaded with lead bullets and a low-pressure powder charge that DOES NOT EXCEED 1000 FEET PER SECOND VELOCITY!
2. NOT FOR USE IN BRASS FRAME REVOLVERS!
3. .44 and .45 caliber cylinders must NEVER BE INSTALLED IN A .36 CALIBER REVOLVER!
Follow all instructions that come with your Cylinder Assembly and Firearm. Safe shooting is your responsibility."
Sorry CraigC for the misunderstanding! Note, in this quote from my post, I specified "C&B" as in Cap and Ball.Yeah, where's the admonition against smokeless powder???
If you are loading cylinders with loose powder and ball and capping the nipples, you should NEVER use smokeless power!Never use smokeless in a C&B revolver!!!!