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It seems to me that you are the one missing the point. We're talking about a safe being attacked by professionals in a laboratory controlled atmosphere. ANY safe can be compromised given enough time and equipment.
Your contention is that a safe with a RSC rating is better than a safe without the rating. Shouldn't we know what the rating entails?
Now you're just being silly.
Guilty. But I'm also pointing out why the details are important. You want to see hard numbers on the fire test. Why don't you know the hard details of the burglary test?
I haven't seen an itemized list of tools used by UL for the RSC test. If you have it, I'd love to see it. Just post a link so we'll all know where you got it.
I do have a list. You can get one yourself straight from UL, or any of their authorized vendors. A printed copy of this standard runs around $800 I believe.
There are no links. I do not get my information from the internet. I get it from my real life dealings in the safe business. I'm going to list the basic RSC requirements in a post below. However, if you're going to use this new information when selling safes, please do not pretend that you obtained it the same way I did.
I just can't understand why you want to place so much value on AMSEC's non-UL fire rating compared to those of others.
Your claim that the BF series uses the same material as a UL listed fire safe doesn't hold up. That would be the same as me building a small block Chevy engine based on the same parts as a NASCAR engineer and expecting to be competitive on the track. I'm afraid it just doesn't work like that in the real world.
Because AMSEC is the only one using material that is found in UL rated safes. It isn't rocket science.
Gypsum board is not used as a primary insulator in safes with UL fire ratings. Ceramic furnace insulation is not used as a primary insulator in safes with UL fire ratings. Fiberglass is not used as a primary insulator in safes with UL fire ratings.
AMSEC's Drylight IS used as a primary insulator in safes with a UL fire rating. The safe may not be rated, and there's probably a good reason why, but you're still closer to the real deal than you are with any of your other options.