How China views gun sales in America

They're concerened about how we sell guns here, how about how they sell kitchen knives and hammers. I do recall 3 or so articles about some "crazed man" with a knife/hammer attacking children in schools.
Should we ban the sale of anything with a sharp edge, point, anything capable of being swung, butter knives, pens, pencils. Do I need to keep going? China's government is affraid of people being able to tell their govt to go to hell and let them live freely like we do. Which unfortunately seems to be where some people here in the states are affraid of is going to happen, and most likely will happen if Liberals keep trying to push their crap.

They're concerened about how we sell guns here, how about how they sell kitchen knives and hammers.

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I think maybe you read a different set of comments than I did. I'm reading a great deal of understanding of just what a right to bear arms means for American society. I'm reading these Chinese folks' making rational and accurate -- and deeply respectful -- comments about the character of the American citizen and the deferential nature of our government.

What I find distressing is that so many of them obviously do not quite believe that they or their fellow citizens can be trusted with that much freedom and responsibility.

The Chinese seem to have a clearer idea of the meaning of the Second Amendment than many Americans.

The one commentator also is quite perceptive in seeing that if the people have guns, they know they can take action if absolutely necessary, and so will be less likely to use armed force in any situation short of an extreme emergency.

Jim

why are all the Chinese commenting in English?

I have had the very good pleasure to get to know a number of Korean and Chinese citizens through graduate school. Both cultures, though different, have been very thoughtful and reflective in nearly all of my interactions with them. These comments don't surprise me in the least. In America, and other low context cultures, we tend to say things more off the cuff and without much reflection. Other cultures really put a lot more value in discourse, and say things with a lot of thought put into their positions.

This is not to say that Americans are all crass, but it makes sense (to me at least) why John Q Citizen in China says things that seem to have been actually thought out and here in the US our comment threads on some newspaper articles (not here on THR) turn into digital slug fests.

geekwitha45- China has literally millions of English speakers- and its a very popular area of study in school, so I'm not surprised that the comments are in English. Though they may have been translated.

Interesting thread. I've always given a great deal of respect to our foreign enemies and allies troops who get tossed into the fray by their governments. Let's face it, the common man or woman, like most of us, really has no beef with another pursuing life, liberty and happiness as long as they don't tread on each other. I feel this way regardless of the shackles he or she is born into via their local government.

That was very refreshing to read. Very respectful and I must say that honestly put a smile on my face. It does bother me that some believe their own people couldn't handle the responsibility of firearm ownership.

Thanks for posting the link,makes me even more proud to be an American.

Who really cares what China thinks?

Fatelvis said:

Who really cares what China thinks?

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I know I dont care what China thinks, or any other country for that matter.

I don't find these comments too surprising. It seems like people raised under an authoritarian government who come to the United States are particularly appreciative of their rights, including the right to keep and bear arms as a check on a tyrannical government. It is particularly noticeable in immigrants from the former Soviet Union, but it doesn't surprise me that mainland Chinese recognize this as well.

It is particularly noticeable in immigrants from the former Soviet Union, but it doesn't surprise me that mainland Chinese recognize this as well.

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I think Stalin and Mao are still pretty fresh in thier minds. Here, however, alot of people think that "it can't happen here".

Interesting that the general consensus there is that America is a relatively non-violent society considering the number of guns here. A number also imply that they don't believe their fellow Chinese would be as trustworthy because of deep divides within their culture.

Amazing that these people, held under the boot of communism, understand our Constitution and the reason for the RKBA better than the average American.

Of course, most antis don't like to hear about the self-defense and anti-tyrannical uses of guns because those thoughts are just too disturbing for their birds and butterflies world view. They don't want to confront the nasty reality that good governments do go bad with alarming regularity...the Chinese, of course, have witnessed that first hand.

Who really cares what China thinks?

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I don't think the point of posting this was that we are supposed to "care" what people from other places think.

You don't have to "care" (read, react to, agree with, internalize, abide by, etc) what other people think to learn something from their words.

In this case I'm refreshed to discover that things which I hold to be true and dear to me -- but which are sometimes refuted, ignored, or denigrated by some of my fellow citizens -- may be understood intitively (absent even the supporting social context) by people from other places.

When random Chinese people observing a photograph from a WalMart and a brief caption of explanation can inferr the entire basis of what it (should) mean to us to be a full Citizen of a free country endowed by our Creator/Nature with the right to access to lethal force and the responsibility to resist tyrranical rule -- well, that is just about breath-taking. Quite a validation of the clarity of our own framers' vision of what our country could, should, and MUST be.

Who really cares what China thinks?

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I know I dont care what China thinks, or any other country for that matter.

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Way to completely miss the point, guys.

I bet they consider it important because it makes invasion impossible. They sent Obama here to take them away as a first step towards domination. The reason the socialists/Democrats/marxists/communists fear guns in America is that guns give free people the ability to resist oppression by tyrants and/or billionares from eastern europe.

Gosh...they'd have a heart attack if they read the biographies of George Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Whitman, etc. I think they'd keel over dead if they ever read their writings.

actually they haven't, they have never had a government that worked better than the one they currently have. they currently have better housing, access to food, self improvement and a sense of security from government excesses than ever before in their history.

you have to remember that their history goes through petty kingdoms, emperors, warlords and communist rule

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The Chinese fear their current government. Regardless of the outward facing facade they project, the Chinese people are subject to torture, tyranny, and death at the hands of their leaders.

My point is that they understand the fear of a government that is beyond their control. Tienanmen Square is a memory of many people there.

Made me feel good reading that we need to find that guy and give him a citizen ship to the US

9mmepiphany said:

.... they have never had a government that worked better than the one they currently have. they currently have better housing, access to food, self improvement and a sense of security from government excesses than ever before in their history.

you have to remember that their history goes through petty kingdoms, emperors, warlords and communist rule.

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And don't forget Tianemman Square.

I love that last comment:

300 million people, 30,000 firearms deaths are described as "trivial".


We whine and moan and groan about that number. Heck, we whine about 35 casualties in a month in Afganistan.

In China...they'd love to have a number that low. Just to illustrate:

Our Civil War had between 600,000-700,000 casualties. Theirs, from 1850-1864, had an estimated 20 million casualties. And they didn't even have the benefit of many "modern" black powder rifles and cannon. They had armies from 1 to 3 million men! Think what General Lee could have done with an army that huge!!!