mortablunt
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I definitely don't agree with him here. And even most representative gun owners, having gone through the AWB, wouldn't agree with him either. I agree with him on most other things.
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JustinJ
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Let's drop the "its not a real assault rifle" mantra. We all know what is being referred to. Arguments of semantics are obvious dodges of the real issues at hand and convince nobody of nothing. If somebody says "we should ban assault rifles like what was used in the theater shooting" it will not convince them that AR's should be allowed by pointing out that a real assault rifle is select fire. They are concerned with what the gun enabled the shooter to do. Not proper terminology.
gc70
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Media reaction to Obama's speech is fairly interesting.
The banner headline on FoxNews is Another Assault Weapon Ban Coming? attached to a reasonably long article with negative speculation.
Articles on NBCNews and CNNPolitics did not get lead coverage and nearly sound whiny and downtrodden.
The banner headline on FoxNews is Another Assault Weapon Ban Coming? attached to a reasonably long article with negative speculation.
Articles on NBCNews and CNNPolitics did not get lead coverage and nearly sound whiny and downtrodden.
Knives belong in the hands of chefs, not in the hands of muggers.
Fast cars should be driven by professional race car drivers, not by illegal street racers.
Both statements, and the President's statement, are true, but none of them are all inclusive. Measuring levels of agreement with any of those statements, does not approach the question of whether the average, law abiding citizen should be able to own them.
Fast cars should be driven by professional race car drivers, not by illegal street racers.
Both statements, and the President's statement, are true, but none of them are all inclusive. Measuring levels of agreement with any of those statements, does not approach the question of whether the average, law abiding citizen should be able to own them.
Squeaky Wheel
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This! Being 100% correct on terminology and definitions is much less important than the general posturing and attitudes that are shaping up. Let's stay focused on the central issues.
YankeeFlyr
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That's a mis-quote.
I saw the footage; he doesn't say "...in the streets."
He says "...in the hands of criminals."
That's a mis-quote.
I saw the footage; he doesn't say "...in the streets."
He says "...in the hands of criminals."
Bobson
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I believe regular citizens should be allowed to own any firearm/accessory he or she chooses, including fully automatic weapons, short barreled rifles, silencers, etc. Furthermore, the NFA process is complete BS. It shouldn't exist, even as a prerequisite for owning anything. Its sole purpose seems to be to serve as a discouragement for owning NFA items.
The full quote separates gun owners into two categories - soldiers and criminals. Basically, unless you're paid by the government to own a gun, you're a criminal for owning one.
At least that's the way I read it. You can apply that logic to anything: If you don't want criminals to have it, we need X law to make sure only soldiers have it.
At least that's the way I read it. You can apply that logic to anything: If you don't want criminals to have it, we need X law to make sure only soldiers have it.
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unreal... I did this math on another forum to show the difference in gun related deaths according to FBI statistics showing since the lift of the Clinton Assault Weapon Ban and how its gone down.
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Make sure your NRA membership is up to date, and if you can afford it buy some memberships as gifts for friends and loved ones.
Most people who would say something like that have no idea what an "assault weapon" is, legally or otherwise, or what the 94 law actually said. I don't know why you'd start a conversation with them by pretending that "assault weapon" actually means anything outside of places like CA or NY, but to each his own.
P5 Guy
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NO,NO, A THOUSAND TIMES NO!
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None of my AK's see daylight, unless its at the range. That's far from the street.
The_Armed_Therapist
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False. I hope you're kidding.
FROGO207
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If the criminals can get them without any background checks the average citizen also should be able to just to level the playing field. THIS would stop a lot of other firearm violence in the bud I feel. The point is highly regulating something available to law abiding citizens while not being to regulate what a criminal gets through "their sources" is not particularly intelligent in it's approach I am afraid.
The point is highly regulating something available to law abiding citizens while not being to regulate what a criminal gets through "their sources" is not particularly intelligent in it's approach I am afraid.JVaughn
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I cannot concede Mr. Dig - see my signature line.
shall not be infringed. I'm sorry my friend, there is no allowance for regulation. The security of the free state is guaranteed by you and I, not by the armed forces; and to maintain that security we cannot be restricted. To restrict the keepers of the security would be to threaten that security.
On the other hand it's ok to let AK47's end up in the hands of narco terrorists south of the Rio Grande.
Obama risks having a reporter (with actual nads intact) ask him a question about our government allowing Mexican drug lords to get American Assault Weapons if he crows too loudly about civilians owning AR's and AK's.
I'm not saying that it's going to happen but Obama runs that risk if he talks about the topic around real journalists. Of course journalists used to be the watchdogs of government overstepping it's boundries. Now we almost always have lapdogs cuddling up to those in power.
Obama risks having a reporter (with actual nads intact) ask him a question about our government allowing Mexican drug lords to get American Assault Weapons if he crows too loudly about civilians owning AR's and AK's.
I'm not saying that it's going to happen but Obama runs that risk if he talks about the topic around real journalists. Of course journalists used to be the watchdogs of government overstepping it's boundries. Now we almost always have lapdogs cuddling up to those in power.
bikerdoc
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Potus does not know an AK from his elbow. He is spouting the anti line and it is our job to fill congress with pro RKBA advocates who believe in the true meaning of the the 2A.
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MonkeyMasher
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I didn't know that criminals obeyed the law. I also didn't know that regular citizens walk around with AK47s
Prince Yamato
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Where are all these free guns on street corners? I go for walks in all the wrong neighborhoods.
saenzrich
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Seriously. To the OP....
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