Carry At Work?

Aren't we already talking about this?

I carried at a dry cleaners that I worked at in college. We were in a tough neighborhood and the owner wanted us to carry.

is it a question of policy versus a question of law?

If it's law, we are not going to advocate breaking it... not here.

Everyday is bring your gun to work day for me

If it's legally binding, I'd suggest you find a new job.
If it's not legally binding let me ask how you'd respond to it stated more clearly:
"We need you to put your safety and risk of loss of life in ours or somebody else's hands. You cool with that?"

Honestly, (and I don't mean this disrespectful, but) it's a silly discussion.

Take care of yourself--you care about you more than anyone else.

"that the Los Angeles Police Department has been “pulled back for their own safety.”

I consistently carry and have at multiple jobs. NOT against the law, but against every company policy. The dark, scary parking garage is also a gun-free zone. Because inner-city parking garages are safe.

Yes, I carry anywhere that it is lawful to do so, even if against work or school policy. I choose to take personal responsibility for my own life.

I do not carry on my full-time job, in EMS, and it is prohibited. It is also not permitted at my part-time pizza delivery gig. There, I do carry in violation of policy.

I had 1K cases of ammo delivered to my office at my previous job. I don't do that where I currently work, but I don't leave my gun at home. I don't go anywhere without it...never will.

I had 1K cases of ammo delivered to my office at my previous job.

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Was it all at one time..!?

You do have to abide by policies in the work place. If you carry and its a big NO NO and you get fired then that is the way it is. If you dont like their policies you have to work some where else. I own my own business and dont care if people carry. However my rules are my rules. They are not up for debate.

No, I do not carry inside the building but do keep something in my vehicle. The published verbiage in our employee manual is fuzzy but I am playing it safe as far as my job goes. Jobs are too hard to find, especially well paying jobs like mine. It's a calculated gamble but I am counting on the odds of needing a gun at work being minimal. Besides, I typically wear a white dress shirt and business slacks which, unless I want to look like a slob with a bagging shirt, it would be too difficult to conceal except on my ankle and that would be difficult to access without alerting the bad guy.

I do carry an assited opening pocketknife and a survival mindset.

I worked part time at a corporately owned sandwich shop that was based out of Chicago. As you can imagine, no carrying. One of our other stores had been robbed, and an employee was assaulted in the progress of the robbery. I began carrying the next day.

I also realized that in the event I needed it, or was caught carrying against policy that my employment would be immediately terminated.

If my company's policy forbid carrying at work, and I valued my employment, I would not carry at work. If I chose to ignore company policy and carry anyway, I wouldn't publish my decision on the internet even if I thought I was doing it anonymously.

No.
Absolutely not. Change your job if you dont like it or be ready for possible consequences from being fired to much more depending upon your local law.

If I was an employer and I didnt want my employees to carry firearms ar work then I would mean it. Whoever is your boss while on their dime you do what is required. You always have option to quit.

For example, in my house no one is allowed to bring weapon inside. Everyone is asked to leave them in their vehicles. They may chose not to come in at all, but if they want to they will have come without their weapon.

I made this policy after a friend discharged his weapon in the house. That started raising questions of accidents and security concerns. Finally I decided that house premises are secured and people coming in are entering private property who need not to carry weapons- if they want to as choice they may choose to stay outside as well.

Similarly, no one in my staff is allowed to carry a weapon who does not have in theri job discription to carry. My house my rules. I guess I can understand your employers position a bit.

No. But a can of WD-40 in your desk for those squeeky office chairs and a bic lighter in pocket doesn't bother anyone.

Was it all at one time..!?

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Good catch! I guess I didn't proof that...I meant 1K rnd or round cases....or, cases of ammo up to 1000 rounds.

No can do. It is against my employer's policy, state law, and federal law. I'd lose a lot more than my job if it was determined I was carrying. I also cannot have any kind of gun or ammunition in my personal vehicle on the property.

You guessed it, I work in a "gun-free" zone.

I carried for 15 years at my last company in direct violation of their printed policy manual. But in reality it was pretty much a don't ask don't tell situation. I was fairly high up in the company and it was commonly known that I was a "gun nut". During hunting season I'd often work a half day and hunt a half day come into our very urban office in camo etc. Now for the last two years I have my own company with 25 people, guns and carry are fully supported by me. I even gave a couple Henry golden boy .22 rifles and mossberg shotgun out as corprate gifts. There was a big gun show a couple months ago and I told everyone that it was a regular workday unless you went to the gunshow

employer doesn't allow it

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I'd say that spells out pretty clear that we're talking about policy, not what the actual law says.


Yes, I would. If an employer does not respect my safety, I will not respect their rules. Yes, I could choose to get another job. Just as the employer can choose to allow me to carry. I totally accept the consequences of getting caught. Employment is an equal trade of value for value. I do work; the value of that work is exchanged for currency of equivalent value. Keeping in tandem with that, respect will be traded for respect and disrespect for disrespect.

Nothing about carrying against the rules says I will also perform a substandard job. If the employer is still paying me the correct amount, I will continue to give him the correct work output. But if he is also choosing to disrespect my safety while I am working, I will disrespect his rules while he is paying me. Value for value, or lack thereof.

There was a company that I had a working relationship with that had a no firearms/weapon policy on premises. The owner kept a handgun is his office. The owner leased office space and production space to his brother whom kept a Colt AR series rifle in his office. Hypocrite applies.

A buddy of mine worked in a 24 hour store.

The manager called him into his office. There was a cocked and locked Commander on the desk.
He explained how the company policy was that there were no firearms allowed on the premises. No mention of the 45 was ever made. My buddy understood loud and clear. He carried a snubby trooper or a high power every day.

Most companies policies are for legal cover.

No policy ever stopped me from carrying.

Most companies have all kinds of silly crap in their employee handbook. It is VERY rare when most of us do not violate policy.

I quit working for other people years ago so this is all academic for me. As I sit at my desk there is a J-frame beside the computer. Yes...I know. I should have a K-frame here.

As an aside regarding my part-time pizza delivery job, there was an incident a few years ago when a masked man entered another local store in the chain through an unlocked back door, pointed a rifle at employees, then turned and left with no further action. I joked to myself when I read it that it could have been our supervisor, a friend of mine for many years, "teaching" those employees to keep that door secured. The next time I saw him, I mentioned it to him. Like me, he's also a former LEO. He replied "Hell, no! I'd be afraid someone in there would be packing heat!"
I responded, kind of in a "nudge nudge, wink, wink" manner that he should know better; the company does not permit the carrying of weapons.