Do we need glenn beck on our side?

It is the "incompatable" part of your statements that I don't see. Mormon... sorry for the misspelling. Beck believes in self sufficiency and the power of the individual.

Beck does intensive research, and appears to have no fear.

Unlike others, he's not a shill for the Republican party no matter what they do.

That's always useful to have on your side.

22-rimfire said:

Beck believes in self sufficiency and the power of the individual.

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Which is exactly why grassroots has more power than any demagogue.

colonel kernel-I do not know how much attention you pay to what happens each legislative session (not only at the national level but at each state house) but they never go away. Each year laws that would infringe upon our 2A rights are proposed by anti-gun legislators. I may be wrong but I believe it was Thomas Paine who said, "the price of freedom is constant vigilance." We need Beck, Nugent & anyone else that is in the public eye to get our message out there. We are too complacent. We shouldn't be satisfied with only killing an assault weapons ban, universal background checks & magazine capacity limits. We should be on the offensive working to repeal the wrong minded Gun Control Act of 1968. We need people that are in the public eye to get the message out there. How can those who sit on the fence or just never really thought about guns much to consider our side of things if they are never exposed to the message. We need to make the opposition be the ones fighting to hold on to what they have with us gaining ground not the other way around.

Not much to explain, Glenn Beck pretends that he is philosophical kin to Thomas Paine. Anyone who has read Paine knows this is completely false.

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IIRC, Agrarian Justice vs Agrarian Law and Common Sense both contain ideas that Glenn Beck would refer to as socialism.

Mike J said:

I may be wrong but I believe it was Thomas Paine who said, "the price of freedom is constant vigilance."

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John Curran, then paraphrased by Thomas Jefferson.

The best defense is offense. G Beck, Ted Nugent and Judge Jeanine are all good speakers who can deliver the blow by blow rundown. We should be thankful we have them on our side of the fenceline.

Worse come to worse we dont want to fix bayonet and come out of the trenches. Right now we are digging in and fighting back. To attack is to fix bayonets and charging. Thats the worse that can happen.

SuperNaut said:

Which is exactly why grassroots has more power than any demagogue.

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Are you saying that Beck is a "demagogue"? Somebody has to LEAD. Grassroots movements don't mean much if they are not focused and lead to a certain degree. The Tea Party was a grassroots movement... but identifying the "leaders" was rather difficult.

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Somebody has to LEAD. Grassroots movements don't mean much if they are not focused and lead to a certain degree.

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Completely false. Sorry, our latest wins did not spring from a "leader."

I submit that as soon as someone is allowed to 'take the reins' it becomes an immediate excuse to relax and actually decrease vigilance.

orionengnr said:

As long as we have MSM "polls" stating that "90% of NRA members approve of UBCs, etc.," we need people who will stand tall and raise the BS flag.

Joe Sixpack (low-information voter, and there are lots of them out there) hears what the NYT/CBS/MSNBC poll says and thinks. "Gee, if 90% of gun owners agree, can't be all bad, right? Maybe Joe Biden is right after all."

We need the countering voices. The ones who speak the truth, and consequences be damned. They may get a bit strident at times.

I'm okay with that too. If you are one man trying who has the nerve to speak out against the din of thousands of marble-mouthed idiots, you will have to raise your voice a bit....

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Plus information is key. He supplies a great amount of it. Ammunition so to speak and it can make the average 2a supporter the ability to have a reasoned argument with moderates and uniformed.

Go ask 30 people you know what a Socialist is....they (average voter) needs all the information they can get.

We need Beck bad to rally the fence sitters.

A part of Becks speech while adressing the NRA;

Beck eventually circled back to the theme of his keynote speech.

“It is not the gun or the knife, or as Cain discovered with Abel, a rock,” he said, “but the cold heart filled with error, darkness and coldness. That is the problem.”

He urged his audience to build others up, to teach them, to heal them. He said liberty-loving Americans will work side-by-side together for freedom; white, black, Hispanic or native-American. “It doesn’t matter,” he noted.

“We will work together as Americans not only to preserve our rights, but the rights of our children to be safe, our wives and daughters to not be held at knife or gunpoint by a rapist and our most precious and vulnerable little ones to have the right to survive a simple walk down a city street or God forbid, survive a day public education,” Beck said to thunderous applause.

Beck concluded his powerful keynote speech by quoting Winston Churchill, saying “we will fight your lies and we will counter them with love, peace and equal justice for all mankind.”
Yeah we don't want stuff like that getting out there as a representation of what we beieve in...

I would welcome Glenn as an ally, not as a leader. However, his political allegiance seems to be quite variable, quite mutable, maybe he is more steadfast when it comes to the Second Amendment...

I am not a regular listener of Glenn Beck, I am at work when his radio show airs, but what little, I have heard or him, I like. Same for Rush Limbaugh, and others.

There may be one, but I have never heard an on air Liberal radio or Television personality defend the Second Amendment.

Glenn Beck is a friend of the Second Amendment, so he is a friend of mine.

Enough said.

Beck does intensive research

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I used to think this until he started talking about something I've very familiar with. I'm in education and I can tell you much of his recent attacks on Common Core aren't even remotely based on anything accurate. His extreme wrongness on this issue now has me questioning everything I've ever heard him talk about.

But he still is quite funny, when he isn't being weepy and overly melodramatic, which is why I started listening to him when he went into national syndication shortly after 9-11.

Do we need him on 2A? Well, we certainly need him more than we need someone like Alex Jones going on Piers Morgan and making us all look like nutbags.

Colonel Kernel:

If you believe the other side is going to "move on" to something else, I have some ocean front property in central Kansas I'd like to sell you.

ChaoSS said:

Is all really quiet on the gun front? There are still states that are actively working to increase infringement on gun owners.

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Yep, and it's still too cold for the "global warming" stuff...
At least here in the mid west...

Like i said, G Beck is a paid speaker. If you want one with a true passion for our 2 A , then Ted is the man .

As the saying goes - "With friends like that..."