I have finally joined the ranks of Glock owners....

wow.

I have read references to this kinda thing, but it is the first time I have ever seen a Glock FanBoy Go Off ... probably because, until about 6 weeks ago, I had no reason to be in a "Glock" thread.

Interesting.

Well, The Glock doesn't have long frame rails to put all the lube like a P226 or a 1911, only four small metal tabs in the frame for the slide to ride on. So I lubricated the barrel very lightly as well as the frame rails in the slide, everything else is pretty much dry.

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BTW... Here are the locations, Glock recommends to lube.

Wanderling said:

Completely disagree.

In the engineering world, great implementation often trumps a great idea, and takes a special kind of talent. Kalashnikov didn't really "invent" anything either yet was a brilliant gun designer.

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You can disagree as completely as much as you want but any objective comparison of M. Kalashnikov and for that matter G. Glock to brilliant gun designers will find Mik and Gas coming-up short.

Neither Mr. Kalashnikov or Mr. Glock are “brilliant gun designers”. Both of these men are designers of one great gun but are not great designers of guns. While both of these men maybe brilliant they have not demonstrated brilliance in gun design only talent in building upon brilliant ideas of other men in creating essential one design.

I will agree that M. Kalashnikov and Mr. Glock did an outstanding job in implementing the ideas of many others to create a “brilliant” gun but that does not make either “a brilliant gun designer”.

It amazes me how little people realize that much of what we use today, Glocks, AKs, ARs, etc., was designed by men using the ideas of previous designers.

It amazes me how little people realize that much of what we use today, Glocks, AKs, ARs, etc., was designed by men using the ideas of previous designers.

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True dat...but even John Browning was guilty of stealin' a lick from somebody else.

Look closely at the Sharps and Winchester falling block rifles to see that it wasn't a big jump to using the falling block to secure the sliding bolt on Winchester lever-action carbines and tie it into the same lever/link.

And what is the Ruger No.1 but a hammerless Low Wall?

It's all good.

1911Tuner said:

True dat...but even John Browning was guilty of stealin' a lick from somebody else.

Look closely at the Sharps and Winchester falling block rifles to see that it wasn't a big jump to using the falling block to secure the sliding bolt on Winchester lever-action carbines and tie it into the same lever/link.

And what is the Ruger No.1 but a hammerless Low Wall?

It's all good.

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No doubt that could be true, but his semiautomatic pistol designs are ingeniously original in all but the most trivial of details and set the pattern for most semiautomatics that followed. Very little in this World is truly new in design, almost everything made by man was inspired by what preceded it either by man or nature. The Wright Brothers did not invent ailerons, they copied the wing warping birds do to maneuver.

No doubt that could be true, but his semiautomatic pistol designs are ingeniously original in all but the most trivial of details and set the pattern for most semiautomatics that followed.

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No argument there.

Just wish that we could convince other people of it. It'd sure save a lotta bandwidth and singed eyebrows. heh

It sure is hard to argue though when people use all caps a lot and bold print, isn't it?

If you don't mind me asking, how much did you score the pistol for?

ritepath said:

The glockers are the Iphone folks of the gun world.

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lol, you could not be more factually incorrect.

Here in the US the iOS operating system (iPhone) is less than 20% market share among mobile phones. As we know, Glock is the single most popular and common pistol/service pistol/defensive pistol in the US. iPhone folks wish they could be in the position of Glock guys

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lol, you could not be more factually incorrect.

Here in the US the iOS operating system (iPhone) is less than 20% market share among mobile phones. As we know, Glock is the single most popular and common pistol/service pistol/defensive pistol in the US. iPhone folks wish they could be in the position of Glock guys

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I think you are missing the point. It is not the percentage of market share the iPhone and Glock have in common it is rabid fanboy syndrome.

I say congrats to the OP on his glock.

For years I refused to like them and tried darn near every other pistol available because they weren't glock. They are all but gone now but the g23 bought ~15 years ago just kept hanging around. Now I have a 19, 23 (now with a 9mm conversion barrel) 41, & 42.

I like them now. I guess I'm a fanboy

Hell yeah. Nice price. I'm not a GLOCK fan, but they are good guns. I'd have bought it too.

I immediately sold my Gen3 21's after handling the Gen4. The difference is significant.

Rubber_Duck said:

$400, including 3 full-capacity mags and 250 rounds of ammo. Was too good to pass up.

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I sold off the only Glock I ever owned to upgrade to a S&W, but I would have jumped on that with no hesitation whatsoever. That was one heck of a bargain!

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$400, including 3 full-capacity mags and 250 rounds of ammo. Was too good to pass up.

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Good for you! I have been a Glock fan (not Fanboy) and Glock Armorer since 1991. Welcome to the club. I greatly appreciate Gaston's creation but neither worship it or Gaston's "brilliance".

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I think you are missing the point. It is not the percentage of market share the iPhone and Glock have in common it is rabid fanboy syndrome.

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I don't think I missed anything.

I think the reason people who are not Glock fans, who love to express loudly and frequently that they are not Glock fans, would be fewer in number, and quieter in voice, if not for the fact that Glocks are so incredibly common and popular.

For those who don't like them it is probably rather irritating how they constantly see Glocks Glocks Glocks everywhere all the time. If they go to a defensive pistol type class or course it might be 80% Glocks. Must drive them mad.

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I immediately sold my Gen3 21's after handling the Gen4. The difference is significant.

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Was your Gen3 G21 a regular or an SF model?

If regular, did you ever own an SF model?

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To paraphrase an old Abbott and Costello bit (and with apologies to those two worthies -- may they rest in peace):

Costello: I'd rather have a Glock than a 1911.

Abbott: Why's that? A 1911 has a lot of advantages.

Costello: Well I could be out in the wilderness one day and drop my 1911 in a lake.

Abbott: That makes no sense. If you had a Glock, it could fall into a lake too.

Costello: Sure, but who'd care?

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Great! Let's throw some more gasoline on the Fanboy Fire!

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I don't think I missed anything.

I think the reason people who are not Glock fans, who love to express loudly and frequently that they are not Glock fans, would be fewer in number, and quieter in voice, if not for the fact that Glocks are so incredibly common and popular.

For those who don't like them it is probably rather irritating how they constantly see Glocks Glocks Glocks everywhere all the time. If they go to a defensive pistol type class or course it might be 80% Glocks. Must drive them mad.

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I don't doubt that this is true for some people.

I still think you missed the original point. Glock Fanboys are the most rabid of all pistol Fanboys. I have 33 years of experience dealing with them since I put down my 1911 and to pick-up the Glock. In my youth I probably would have been labeled a 1911 Fanboy. I certainly was enthralled with every word Jeff Cooper uttered at that time. Having been in both camps so to speak I am certain than 1911 Fanboys run a distant second place to Glock Fanboys in fanaticism and absurd comments just like the Android users run a distant second place to iPhone users. BTW I use an iPhone and Mac.

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Here in the US the iOS operating system (iPhone) is less than 20% market share among mobile phones.

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Source?

"Google's mobile OS remains firmly in first place in the US with a 51.5 percent market share, says ComScore, while Apple's iOS trails with 42.4 percent."

"Collectively, Android and iOS run the bulk of smartphones, with a 93.9 percent share of that market."

Considering only iPhones use iOS and dozens of models of phone use Android, iOS/iPhone is still the most heavily-used platform by a good bit. I use a Galaxy S5, but iOS/iPhone = Glock remains a valid comparison.

"Looking at smartphone manufacturers, ComScore put Apple in first place with its 42.4 percent market share. Samsung took second place with a share of 28.4 percent, up from 27.7 percent. That left LG with 6.4 percent, Motorola with 5.7 percent and HTC with 4.7 percent."

- Source: CNET, September 5, 2014 http://www.cnet.com/news/android-loses-some-us-market-share-but-remains-top-dog/

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Having been in both camps so to speak I am certain than 1911 Fanboys run a distant second place to Glock Fanboys in fanaticism and absurd comments just like the Android users run a distant second place to iPhone users. BTW I use an iPhone and Mac.

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Good point. For work I have to use a surface pro and some kind of windows based Nokia. They kind of suck. A lot. I prefer an iPad and iPhone but I wish they would let me have my Dell back. Anything but that POS SP. That was a nice machine.

You should hear the fanboys in IT when I call with a problem. I recon they're more doboy than fanboy but it's discusting.

Now if Glock would just make a 10mm G20 6" Long Slide on the SF Frame I would be an even bigger fanboy,,,