Nazi 1911's

Very interesting. I didn't know anything about that. Thanks for an informative post

1914 was licensed by Norway, Germans took over and
like the Browning Hi-Power kept making them and put the
Nazi proofmarks on em.

R

While I read about them long ago never payed attention to them assuming asking price for one would be astronomical.

That's a nice bit of history I wasn't aware of, and I do like that lever design.

That is really interesting. I've never heard about this before and I'm a WWII nut. Thanks!

I have one my dad brought back from WWII, complete with bringback paper. It has no German markings, and was made in 1929.
Dad didn't talk much about his wartime experience. When asked, he said he "took it off a DP"

The nazis re-purposed a lot of allied weapons that had been captured or otherwise obtained if they liked them. They even gave them German military designations, and in some cases stamped them with swastikas and other mil markings. I know the 1911/A1, the M1 carbine, and the British sten gun fell into these categories, probably others. When they captured the FN plant in Belgium, BHPs were made under their direction, and the mag safety was deleted. These pistols were all stamped with the swastika and issued to the German mil, and are somewhat collectible.

A guy really starts to feel old when something that was well known back in the day is rediscovered. I think I will go have a glass of milk and take a nap.

Shotgun News had an article about these a few years back.

Very cool

I saw one of them at a private gun collector's show quite a few years ago. It was a pre war Norwegian model and was part of a 1911 collection on display. If you didn't notice the extended slide stop lever you would have thought it to be just another 1911.

Ron James said:

A guy really starts to feel old when something that was well known back in the day is rediscovered. I think I will go have a glass of milk and take a nap.

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^^^This^^^

Having the milk right now

THE GUNS may be "scarce". BUT---BUT!!!---if you want to talk about rare go find some of the German production of 45ACP ammunition to feed those pistols.
I remember when the guns were fairly common and could be had for 40-50 bucks. BUT then, of course you could buy a really NICE 1911A1 from before WWII, or made during the war, for anywhere from twenty to fourty bucks.
And so it goes...

I arrested a guy with one of these Norwegian 1911s with Nazi proof marks almost 40 years ago. Gun was in excellent condition but probably has been part of a manhole cover for some time.

dekibg said:

I am also a WW2 nut .
Hey, if you have better luck than me finding any info on potential
"Soviet 1911's " or " Japanesse 1911's " let me know !

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There was a Japanese Colt 1903 that sold in an auction last weekend. Not MADE there, just imported.

I had a Norwegian 45 in my collection for years, but sold it when I down sized the pistol collection to mostly P.38s and PP u PPK pistols.
Sarge

I have always been amazed that no one has offered a repro of the slide stop on the Norwegian 1911s.

Humm...

They redesigned the slide release lever for easier use but kept the small thumb safety.

I wonder how well the quality held up as the war progressed.

Here's a nice video on the Kongsberg M1914s produced by the Germans when they occupied Norway. Some interesting and ironic twists and turns to this story that I never knew about ...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiVyT3TqS2c

Kongsberg Colt M1914

Only 33,000 or so made. Darn few Nazi marked (occupation years).

I'm more surprised by the existence of a metric 1911 that a nazi 1911.

They're not that uncommon. Argentine Sistema's were chambered in 11.25 mm.

As I understand it, those pistols were not used by the Germans, but by the Norwegian collaborators under Quisling, issued with Norwegian-made ammunition. While the Germans did issue a lot of odd-ball and captured weapons to local pro-German forces, they were pretty stringent about ammunition standards for the Wehrmacht itself.

Still, the Germans, like the Americans, did acquire and use odd stuff on an individual basis. I once knew a Polish resistance fighter, now gone, whose group found a Thompson M1928 in the motorcycle boot of a German courier who had quite literally lost his head due to meeting a piece of piano wire stretched across the road. They tried out the Thompson, shooting up the two mags of .45 the German had, then threw it in a lake. FWIW, his favorite SMG was the PPSh, which he considered the best SMG of WWII. He liked the MP.38 and MP.40 but considered them too finely made for a combat arm; he liked the STEN (which they got from British air drops).

Jim