I am evil...

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No input on the ethical issue. That's up to you.

I'm just wondering how good a relationship you have with the pawn shop. If I were the owner and someone I didn't know listened to what I offered someone and then offered more, there would be a very colorful confrontation.

Just wondering if you know him well, because I suppose that may make a difference.
why would the pawn shop care? they were not going to increase their offer.
 
why would the pawn shop care? they were not going to increase their offer.

Because they pay the rent on the building and the utilities on the building. They don't pay that so someone else can waltz in and use their establishment to do business.
Most gun/pawn shop owners would care very much I'm thinking.
 
When I worked the gun counter at Cabela's's customers would sometimes ask me about selling their guns to us. I always informed them the Gun Library would happily purchase their firearms BUT at wholesale not retail cost. That I would never sell a firearm to a dealer but would sell them myself as selling to a dealer leaves too much money on the table. I would then explain how to sell it by owner.

Some would say they would try it but most did not want the hassle. Of the ones that decided to try to sell their guns to us, have would get offended at the offer they received even after being told they would be offered wholesale. I didn't have sympathy for them.

I would sometimes have young men bring a used long gun from the racks and ask if I thought it was worth the price tag. I would tell them what I'd offer for it and not to go any higher. Most of these people were on a very tight budget, and most of the time the Gun Library would accept the offer. That's a win win which is as it should be. Word does get around. We sold more new and used firearms because of this.

I also had regular customers ask me what to offer on used firearms and would give my opinion. I would not give my opinion on what was a good sales price for items they wanted to sell because I didn't have time to look up blue book values and examine the goods.

What really tore me up were single mothers with young teenage sons that had scrimped and saved to buy their first deer rifle. I would do anything in my power to put them in a good rifle and scope even going so far as to doing price matches when the customer didn't know we did that. Word gets around.

I had a MD ask me about a youth .243 and I noticed a scratch on the crown. Told him to point it out to the gun library and offer $65.00 less to offset getting the barrel recrowned. A few weeks later he called me and asked if I would come to his house and mount four scopes four him. Told him my price and he said come on out. When we were talking in the store I'd mentioned needing to get a new TV because what I had was twenty years old and with the newer formats a quarterback would disappear from the screen when he dropped back to pass. I went to the doctors house mounted the scopes and told him it would be $150.00. He informed me he wasn't going to pay me because I had helped his wife and daughter when they were shopping for a shotgun for him for his birthday and they felt it was the first time they weren't being sold a bill of goods. Instead he gave me a 52" Sony and said it was also future payment so he could call me with firearms questions. Word gets around.

I'm conflicted about the OP's experience. On one hand he offered what I feel is a fair price for a used Mossberg 500. On the other hand someone needed to tell the guy about shotgun plugs. The pawnshop owner had a chance and so did the OP. I certainly don't feel bad for the shop owner, he could have done the right thing and, enhanced his reputation and quite possibly have gotten more business through doing what was right. He didn't do anything unethical but did not exhibit good business sense IMO. I believe the OP should have told him about the plug but I'm not going so far as to condemn him.
 
I have gone to Gun Shows in Ohio, Wisconsin, Georgia, South Carolina and North Carolina. I have seen signs stating that there is NO buying or selling of firearms outside of the gun show. In some areas that is called DOOR SHARKING, and is done by dealers and guys inline. They, like sharks, are looking for the weakest fish in the school. Learn about what you are selling, it is so easy these days with the internet. I think Mossberg's are one ugly shotgun that can make due as canoe paddles. I would have no use for one at $150. The do fill a need for cheap shotguns. So one mans ugly duckling is someone's cheap swan.
 
I was in a pawnshop the other day when someone came in and tried to sell a gun, He was talking to an employee there about how stupid it was for him to have a shotgun that only held three rounds. Yes I think we all know why it only held 3 rounds. The gun was a mossberg 500 12 GA with a gold trigger the pawn shop offered him 150 in store credit or 125 cash he was about to walk away I offered 175 cash and he took it. I know I'm evil for not telling him to take out the plug but I scored a neat gun on the cheap.

Principle is the key word here.
A man,his wife, and their infant child survived a fishing boat accident near England.
The man and his wife ate their infant child in order to survive.
The man and wife were tried in England for the murder of their infant.
The magistrate told them after the trial that he was unable to sentence them for their deed.
Instead he told them that God himself will be called upon to pass judgement on their deed that he could not and would not sit in judgement of their actions.
He sentenced the couple to each spend one hour in the local prison-nothing more.

A persons principles are etched into their bones by the Creator himself.
 
It's ironic.

If Barry the Bear (the OP) had entitled the thread "Scored a good deal at the pawn shop" and everything else in his post was the same...and he'd left this out: "I know I'm evil for not telling him to take out the plug..." I'm reasonably certain that the majority of everyone else in this thread would be congratulating him on a good score and praising him for giving the seller a better/decent price.

Sam
 
Considering that this thread was dug up from last September I am going to go ahead and close it, nothing else can really be added worthwhile.
 
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