A small push helped change my perspective

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Some time ago, one of my neighbors began killing squirrels because they are a nuisance. He had great intentions. He knew that I also do some squirrel control and he enjoyed talking about the project.

Not long after he began, I started seeing things that made me think he wasn't terribly accurate. It culminated when I saw a bloody, injured squirrel limping up my driveway. I live maybe 100 yards from him. I walked down to his house that night and curtly told him that his cripples are ending up in my driveway and that I'm having to finish them off. I wasn't terribly hard on him, but I was direct in my communication that he needed to work on his marksmanship if he was going to keep doing this. There's no room to be sloppy with it, and he need to be killing them, not wounding them only to have them slink off to suffer and become a spawning ground for flies.

Later in the day I was talking with one of my close hunting partners and explained the situation to him. This guy is the biggest ambassador of the outdoors that I've ever seen. I take a lot of people hunting, and I've taught countless numbers to shoot, fish, and hunt, but this guy takes it to the next level. He is just super nice and polite, selfless to a fault, quiet, but is an absolute hardcore outdoorsman...a beast in the woods. He listened to me rant a little bit, and when I stopped, he asked me a question. "Well have you thought about going down and asking him if he needs help getting his rifle set up? He might not know as much as you do about it, and that might be all it takes. Maybe just give him some pointers and get him going in the right direction."

Hmmm. I didn't like admitting it right away, but he had a great point. It could be that the guy doesn't know how to make the situation better. That evening I walked down there and brought the subject up again. "I've been thinking about your squirrel problem, man. Where did you zero your scope?" That started a 15 minute conversation that led to me helping him zero the thing properly. We talked about ammo, shot placement, distance to target, proper backstops, all kinds of stuff. He said he grew up hunting ducks but never owned a rifle in his life so he was just kind of guessing at what he should do. Heck, he never even zero'd it. Just started shooting it at squirrels as soon as he took it out of the box.

I left him with a pellet trap, a properly zero'd rifle, a bunch of shoot 'n see targets, and around six different styles of pellets for him to test. Every pellet gun is different, and a gun might appear to be a lemon, shooting terrible groups, until you find the right pellet. Then the thing might print super tight all day long.

I was pushed a little to change my perspective. I did, and in doing so I was able to help a guy out instead of just leaving him criticized and still in the dark. I haven't seen any more cripples either.
 
You have a wise friend. He possibly cut off the beginning of bad blood with your neighbor.
It's amazing how much a person takes for granted because of the training they were given when young.
It carries over to every aspect of our lives.
 
I have a friend from California that moved to Washington State and loves to shoot once he got out shooting.
From no gun back ground he ws completly clueless about the dynamics of guns.
A 45 is a 45 type of guy. Being a 45 colt or a 45 acp is one of the same.
He bought a 17hmr and put a scope on it and barely tightened the screws down. He wasn't no where close to his target. I checked it out and you could spin the scope in the rings.

It took some time but now he has some understanding of how things work in the gun area.

He is actualally starting to reload rifle & pistol.
Just because some one shoots doesn't mean they understand how things work.
 
I introduced my son in law to center fire rifles a few years ago. Showed him the difference between rifles and shotguns. Other than rimfire rifles he only shot shotguns.

Gave him his first rifle, then told him I was going to spoil him against cheap optics by giving him a Bushnell 3200 elite and a vxii 3-9x40 Leopold.

He changed the Simmons whitetail to the bushy. During a picnic at a friends. Taught him to bore sight using the rifle barrel on a 100 yd target then fire for group.
 
Started my (nine) grandkids at five, shooting BB guns off the porch. About three weeks ago, now 18 years old, Tyler got his first elk, a six point, with one shot through the heart with his dad's 270. Makes me proud.

Yes, without proper instruction, that kid would have fumbled around forever, or just got frustrated and quit. Or possibly hurt somebody.
 
That's something to be proud of.

I've been teaching 3 ofy grandkids ages 6, 10 and 15. My 6 yr old grandson last month told me that he needed a scope for the BBQ gun. I put a green dot on it. I have try and fix a problem he has though. He's left handed and right eye domanant.

I'm going to have to acquire more guns though the older 2 have been shooting .22 lr, 223 bolt action, 5.56 Ar 15 and my 9mm. My only other center fire rifles is 7mm08. They are both small framed and don't want to induce flinch from too much recoil.
 
If more people took a half-step back, take it all in and then think a bit when their dander is up we all would be much happier. It sounds like you had good intentions about the squirrel issue when you first talked with the neighbor, but you fell a bit short. Your friend brought your intentions from a chewing-out to a learning experience and you went back and made it full circle, turning it into a positive for all. Nice teamwork! :thumbup:

Meet up with the neighbor soon, set out some silhouettes or shoot-n-see targets and spend an afternoon introducing him to some of the great gun-games that'll bring his skill up and maybe it'll just cement a friendship. :)

Stay safe.
 
Not to piss on the parade, but squirrels can be some resilient little baxters. Most of the time, you do your job, the rifle does it's job, the bullet does it's job = fall over, DRT squirrel. But, IME, there's no sterling guarantee, sometimes a squirrel is going to take a shot, and keep right on running.
 
Not to piss on the parade, but squirrels can be some resilient little baxters. Most of the time, you do your job, the rifle does it's job, the bullet does it's job = fall over, DRT squirrel. But, IME, there's no sterling guarantee, sometimes a squirrel is going to take a shot, and keep right on running.

That's not pissing on anyones parade. There's lots of ways to do things. My method is to use head shots only. 99% of the squirrels I shoot, drop and flop on the spot. They don't go anywhere because they just had a .177 pellet vacate their skull. I'm patient, pick the shots I know I can nail, and wait on the rest. Of the last 200 I killed, there may have been one or two that got away. Maybe they twitched when the gun was fired, maybe I did, but he vast, vast, vast majority drop in their tracks when shot like that.

Not everyone has the gun, the patience, or the skill to shoot like that, and in those cases I wholeheartedly agree with you. Squirrels are a lot tougher than they should be. :D But with reasonable tactics and decent marksmanship, there shouldn't be cripples hobbling all over the neighborhood leaving blood trails on a regular basis.
 
Generally I use body shots, with a 22LR. Last time I shot a squirrel in the head was with an AR-15. Knocked him clear out of the tree. As I was going over, to pick him up, he got right back up, ran up the trunk of the tree, stopped at about 7 feet up, I could see daylight through his snout. One day you may find your head shot is no guarantee of a kill.
 
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