Thanks, For their age they are in pretty good shape and still shoot pretty well! I did take care of them as a youngster. Just wish the finish on the 102 was more intact, there is some light rust I may try and remove and clean the bores as soon as I get. 177 swab! When young I used to treasure them, wiping with oil and oiling the internals. They did take plenty of starlings in their day!From the photos it looks like your guns are in very nice condition. You must have taken good care of them.
It shows! Your lucky to have them.When young I used to treasure them,
It clips to the shot tube, most shot tubes have a small hole under it for some reason. I don't know of anyone who has them separately, unfortunately.Another inquiry while I am waiting on parts. Is the little cover that closes the BB loading port soldered on the shot tube or does it just snap on /friction fit? Also, is it available anywhere? Mine is missing
There were 102-36s marketed as Cubs,
Thanks for the support, WN, much appreciated!
There were 102-36s marketed as Cubs, I think. Not positive but I'll check my notes. The model 111 is a cool gun, too. Longer than the Cub, as you know.
I'd add some oil or ATF (your choice) through the OIL HERE hole, but you don't need too much since it has rubber seals. The seals may still be okay, but you'll know more after oiling. I stand mine with the muzzle down so the lube runs to the seals, then you can work the lever w/o cocking. No worries if it cocks- just dry fire it in a safe direction in case a BBs is still in there, or just remove the shot tube fo be sure. Watch out for oil spray from the barrel, that it doesn't stain anything.
If they check out and are shooting normally, you can add a 5/8" preload spacer to boost the MV. Drilling the air tube to 3/32" will also help the power. Together these mods could put you around 300 fps MV. Unfortunately, Daisy doesn't have the 7/8" barrel seals any longer. They do sell a plunger assembly for the 1938B RedRyder and 105B Buck that has a good spring that's a little stronger than the stock springs from the '60s, plus a new 7/8" piston. The plunger tube won't work right in the older guns with a steel trigger.
The second gun you showed above has leather seals- I didn't see any of the posts that came after the first 2 you posted on the rss feed I was using, sorry.
That looks a lot like a 11-29, but that's just a guess- I don't know the early guns too well. A couple articles on them are https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2015/11/daisy-number-12-model-29-bb-gun/ and https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2015/11/daisy-number-12-model-29-bb-gun-part-2/
Unfortunately I painted that old one yrs ago for my son when he was 5? That was 25 yrs ago! There is a daisy flanked by bullseyes stamped on each side! and the lever doesn’t stay up!This has been a very, very enjoyable endeavor. I never thought there'd be so many folks who would contribute their time and energy to this project, but I thank every one of them!
That sounds like a good plan. The oldest one is a real looker, I'd leave it as close to stock as you can, but it wouldn't surprise me if it needed the seals oiled. I wrote a little on this HERE. I do have springs, you can send me a message through this forum if you'd like to discuss it. On the old one, see if you can make out the word "DAISY" with a bullseye at each end. They would be stamped very lightly into the metal, but may still be visible. It may be a Model H, or an 11-29 I mentioned already.
The old one is a repeater in as much as there is a loading port behind the front sight.@Wingnuts, I looked through the early guns in Gary Garber's Daisy Encyclopedia, and it looks like your oldest gun may be a relatively early production Model H. There were quite a few variations of the model - they could be nickel plated or blued (none were painted), some had a soldered under-barrel patch, later guns didn't, etc. It took me a while to notice it, but he giveaway for yours is that there are no lever retainer clips under the receiver like other lever guns use. It could be a single shot or a repeater but the best way to tell from the outside is to look at the type of front sight it has. If there's a slot that the sight locates in and the shot tube is spring loaded to hold it in the gun, it's a single shot. If the shot tube is threaded, it's a repeater.
So going by what I can see from a single photo, my guess is it may be a repeater made between 1914 and 1921 or a single shot made between 1913 and 1919. These guns were made to shoot lead shot, so the shot tube will be too large for steel BBs made today to be very accurate. And you may find steel BBs want to roll out of the shot tube by gravity. But you still should be able to shoot it, just not with the accuracy you'd like to have.