Hollywood and Guns

Carl N. Brown said:

I'll agree that tossing away an empty canteen never made sense to me. when I was hiking I never threw away a canteen just because it was empty.

I would like to see a gun fight scene where one participant shoots his gun empty, throws the empty gun at his opponent, who has spare ammo that would fit it.

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LOL, that reminded me of the old Superman in black and white. The bad guy would shoot at Superman and the bullets would bounce off. The bad guy would then throw his gun and Superman would move out of the way.

MrChicken said:

LOL, that reminded me of the old Superman in black and white. The bad guy would shoot at Superman and the bullets would bounce off. The bad guy would then throw his gun and Superman would move out of the way.

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I was watching an episode of the new Supergirl that Superman made a guest appearance in (I don't remember the actor's names) and they actually did it scene like that in which Superman says something about you just emptied your gun at me and it didn't do any good so why are you throwing the gun at me now?

indy1919a4 said:

I think the train embarkation scene was awesome, every emotion is touched..

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Yeah, freakin' great scene -- every time I see it, I feel like reenlisting. Would've been sweet to get a send-off like that one, for sure. And by the way, I can forgive some minor inaccuracies if it's any Western with Sam Elliott or Tom Selleck in it.

Double_J said:

I gave up on Hollywood getting it right, even with "expert advisors" on scene.

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Don't give up! There's still the occasional movie coming out where the production crew really pays attention to detail and gets most (if not all) the gun stuff right.

MrChicken said:

LOL, that reminded me of the old Superman in black and white. The bad guy would shoot at Superman and the bullets would bounce off. The bad guy would then throw his gun and Superman would move out of the way.

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There are valid reasoning why Superman ducked when the pistol was thrown at him.. Superman, who has time traveled, knew how those 1940s and 1950s revolvers would be in high demand in the future and very sought after and valuable.

When the 1st revolver was thrown, he saw it was a fine American made Smith and Wesson (super-vision) and could not bear to have it damaged when it hit his body of steel.





Other times, where he let the gun hit him, he saw that it was some nasty zinc based cheap import that really should not be on the market anyways. So Superman did not mind damaging the revolver to make a super point to the criminals.




That is just Superman doing his bit for truth justice and the American way..


Now Wonder Woman, she just hates on guns.


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Old Dog said:

And by the way, I can forgive some minor inaccuracies if it's any Western with Sam Elliott or Tom Selleck in it.

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I could forgive those guys in a western dressing in drag and doing the hula..

In the Longest Day( about DDay for you younguns). They were really quite accurate as to the weaponry carried and/or used by the different troops. Enfields, Brent etc for the brits, (although Lord Lov.ett carried an m1 caebine that day[[actually], m1s etc for us, mausers, Lugers, mg 32s etc for the Germans. The aithenticity in that flick was great.

My all time favorite, "The Killers", 1964 starring Lee Marvin. While watching this movie in a Philadelphia theater, I was in awe that a revolver could be silenced. It went against convention of what my physics class was teaching. I finally bought the DVD a few years ago.

Double_J said:

And there was the never needing to reload" scene where there must have been 500 rounds fired...

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You rang?

CaptHank said:

My all time favorite, "The Killers", 1964 starring Lee Marvin. While watching this movie in a Philadelphia theater, I was in awe that a revolver could be silenced. It went against convention of what my physics class was teaching. I finally bought the DVD a few years ago.

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Oh man forgot about that movie.... Lee Marvin at his most bad butt

This isn't a gun mistake exactly but in the beginning of Silverado Cobb (Brian Dennehy) catches his house dealer skimming profits from him.

He calls the guy on it, beats his ass and fires him.

The guy comes back to the saloon and is about to shoot Cobb in the back when Stella (Linda Hunt) calls out a warning and Cobb shoots the guy (who was pointing a gun at him and getting ready to shoot) in clear self-defense.

And somehow Cobb is the bad guy.


And yes, I am aware that Cobb was, in fact, a dirtbag (low down, dirty pole cat in the vernacular) but I'd say he was 100% justified in that instance

I've been watching THE UNTOUCHABLES. There are a few episodes where the gangster screws a silencer on a revolver and shoots an enemy gangster.

P5 Guy said:

I've been watching THE UNTOUCHABLES. There is a few episodes where the gangster screws a silencer on a revolver and shoots an enemy gangster.

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OH now that was a great series.. Plenty of He-man action

Three more that I remembered.
Criminal Minds, guy goes into an alley gun in right hand, holster on right hip. Comes out of the alley the reverse. Did they just flip the image to save time or did the prop manger have a two martini lunch?
There was a Stargate episode. They are in dark tunnel or hallway with their P90's. They are using weapon mounted flashlights and the leader points his P90 at the face of his men as he gives them orders.
Of course, who can ever forget Cleavon Little in Blazing Saddles holding a gun to his own head?

Whenever watching a western I note that none of the women have hairy legs or armpits. None. Even the Indian women faithfully shave their legs with their Gillette's or maybe they had Nair back then.
Even in those gladiator movies where Steve Reeves or Charlton Heston ran around gladiating or doing labors. Most of the men shaved their bodies and all the women did as well.
Raquel Welch ran around chasing dinosaurs and the dinosaurs had shaved legs.

tipoc said:

Raquel Welch ran around chasing dinosaurs and the dinosaurs had shaved legs.

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In a fur bikini, no less!

tipoc said:

Raquel Welch ran around chasing dinosaurs and the dinosaurs had shaved legs.

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I wasn't looking at the dinosaurs' legs.

Outlaw75 said:

In a fur bikini, no less!

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More hair on that bikini than all the cave women in that flick combined.

Now in 100 Rifles Welch played Sarita a Yaqui Indian revolutionary with Jim Brown and Burt Reynolds. She was shaved as well. At least they left Jim and Burt au natural!

Well they could of trimmed a little off Burt. He was supposed to be half Yaqui and half white and Burt was a hirsute fella, the Yaqui as a people, not so much.

Dibbs said:

Most Cowboy Movies:

Now, I don't know about you guys, but horses, in all my years of experience, have been skittish, high strung, and especially sensitive to loud noises, compacted airwaves(like you get, when you fire a gun, nearby) and motion. Wonderful, and amazing animals, but they do tend to a weakness, with regards to sound.

But most Westerns, the horses are just riding around, or galloping on, with everybody blazing away, with rifles and pistols, left and right. Now, I don't know about everybody else, but I wouldn't dream of firing off a gun, nearby a horse, let alone mounted, for fear of a trip to the E.R...

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Horses can be easily desensitized to loud noises; repetition and frequent exposure will do it. Once the horse learns it won't be hurt by the noise, they eventually ignore it. It's not much different from teaching a water-shy horse how to cross a creek, or teaching a horse to walk along a busy roadside and not jump into traffic when a loud car goes by.. Horses used for mounted police work have to go through such training.

JTHunter said:

What surprised me was that Baldwin reminded the boy to keep his finger off the trigger, not once but twice. This was in addition to "stance" and "breathing". Nice to see accuracy like that.

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John Wayne gave Ron Howard a good shooting lesson in The Shootist, about trigger control and proper aim. He even mentioned only loading 5 rounds so you could keep the hammer down on an empty chamber. Ron's character asked, "what if you're going out to meet someone (for a shootout)?" and Wayne's character tells him to "load 6 if your gut tells you to."

Much as I enjoy the film Open Range with Costner and Duvall, there are some glaring flubs when it comes to the gunplay. At the beginning of the shootout, after Costner shoots "Derby Hat" in the forehead, he comes up against one guy, and fans his gun at least ten times. Duvall shoots a guy through a wall with a shotgun and the guy gets knocked back at least five feet and slammed into another wall by the blast.

In Buck and the Preacher Harry Belafonte carries a pair of pistols that look like cut down O/U shotguns with outside hammers.

tipoc said:

Whenever watching a western I note that none of the women have hairy legs or armpits. None. Even the Indian women faithfully shave their legs with their Gillette's or maybe they had Nair back then.
Even in those gladiator movies where Steve Reeves or Charlton Heston ran around gladiating or doing labors. Most of the men shaved their bodies and all the women did as well.
Raquel Welch ran around chasing dinosaurs and the dinosaurs had shaved legs.

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Well, Thank God... I can deal with that oversite, In those areas...

Outlaw75 said:

Just be thankful no one's tried to "re-boot" it.

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Hush yo mouf, boy! Heavens forbid!

FlSwampRat said:

Hush yo mouf, boy! Heavens forbid!

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Yeah, I'm figuring Beyonce as as Dirty Harriet "Hairy" Callahan whooping up on SEAL Team 6 single handed and saving a bunch of Antifa rioters. And since it's set in San Francisco it would mean she could dispense with all that pit and leg shaving.