How accurate are 22lr ar15s?

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Thinking over what caliber to make my next ar project has me wondering, how accurate are 22lr ar15s? Believe it or not I've never played with one other than at the gun store...

I am looking at dedicated stuff like the cmmg or right to bear arms barrel kits, but guns like the s&w ar15 would count too. How good shooting are these things?
 
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I have one of the S&W 22's. Not a tack driver by any means- my bone stock 30 year old 10-22 is much more accurate, but I use the S&W for other purposes that don't require really tight groups. The S&W will also get FTF if the top round doesn't "ramp up" just right.
 
I have one of the S&W 22's. Not a tack driver by any means- my bone stock 30 year old 10-22 is much more accurate, but I use the S&W for other purposes that don't require really tight groups. The S&W will also get FTF if the top round doesn't "ramp up" just right.
Would it hit a grouse in the head at 30 yards? Like golf ball sized targets? Or the informal pine cone shoot in campsites?
 
I must say, I have not been impressed by the accuracy of the 2 M&P 15/22s I've shot. Had I been, I'd have one. I've not been around any others.
 
Likewise. The one time I got to shoot one (below), I wasn't impressed with the accuracy, and as you can see, it was not at long range.

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I was trying (somewhat unsuccessfully) to teach the young man in the black shirt, a co-worker at the time, how to shoot a little better than his dad (with the beer) had. We were shooting at ten yards, and his groups looked like buckshot. Mine were tighter, but as FL-NC said, not as good as my 10-22 would have been.
 
I had one built for my Colt HBAR by "Accuracy Speaks" out in Mesa AZ over 20 years ago. It was truly a match grade .22 but suffered from feeding problems. Accuracy at 50 yds with Hi Speed ammunition of CCI Mini-Mag heritage was on the order of an inch or less at 50 yds...but it wouldn't feed HP's at all, and I couldn't get through a 10 round mag without a stoppage. Rod
 
I never shot groups with my CMMG upper but have shot lots of steel with it. 2 inch plates at 60 yards off hand with a KNS front post and NM rear sight work well for cheap backyard practice.
 
I have a CMMG .22lr conversion kit which I like a lot.

It will not compete with any sort of tuned target rifle as that is not it's purpose. For ordinary practice and plinking it does very well. I have no complaints with it.

Thus far it has fed every type of ammo I fed it and has been completely reliable. The only failure it has ever had was my very first magazine because I forgot to lube it first as the directions stated. A quick squirt of CLP and we were off to the races

I use the Black Dog twenty rounders with mine as they replicate the straight 20rd 223 mags I prefer. It works fine be with the 30s as well.
 
I got lucky, I guess, with a PSA dedicated upper. Like most 22s, it is ammo sensitive, but it shoots CCI standards into nickle size groups at 50 yards. Never had a feeding problem with Black Dog mags. My buddies shoot clay birds at 50 yards, then I shoot the pieces.
Scoped, free floated and Jard 2 1/2 lb trigger.
I have a KIDD Supergrade and a Kimber 82G. The AR doesn't shoot in that class, but it's pretty decent.
 
The only .22 LR AR platform I have shot were tired old Colorado National Guard M16A1's with a conversion bolt. Let's just say the bullets hit the close range familiarization target, but that's about all that can be observed. I also know that "accidentally" flipping the A1 safety one station too far is rather amusing with a 10 rd .22 LR mag.
 
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After today's range trip, I have to say maybe it's the type of people you see shooting AR 22s? Talk amongst yourselves while I go rebuild the target stand I let them borrow.
 
I’ve got a JP complete upper that I put on a lower with a Giessle,or however it’s spelled, sweet trigger. I haven’t really shot it much yet but so far it’s not up to my heavy barrel Ruger 10/22 nor anywhere near my CZ 452 American. I think given a few more boxes of shells and figuring out what brand it likes best, it will be a shooter. JP makes pretty good stuff but 22 rimfires can be a bit temperamental, especially with a new or clean barrel. I’ve got high expectations for this thing, but right now it’s still just so-so!
 
The only .22 LR AR platform I have shot were tired old Colorado National Guard M16A1's with a conversion bolt. Let's just say the bullets hit the close range familiarization target, but that's about all that can be observed. I also know that "accidentally" flipping the A1 safety one station too far is rather amusing with a 10 rd .22 LR mag.
When I was in ROTC we actually found the Atchisson devices worked better on full auto. Talking to my BIL and his brother, who were Air Farce, confirmed they had the same experience with AF Atchisson devices.
 
I was not overly impressed with the SW 15/22 I fired. Rather toy-ish, yet functional and accurate at the very limited range I used it at. I wish I could’ve stepped back a bit and wrung it out some. I was just making sure it wasn’t wonky as the boy there was having trouble. It wasn’t. I moved the stock in, told him in a whisper to stop aming at the bottom of the target like his dad said, aim where he wants the bullet to hit, and he began connecting.:)

I also have heard of the less than stellar accuracy of the tight twist barrel on the soft bullets, as well as the conversion unit’s disturbance to the affairs of the bullet’s journey.
I am however, still interested in building an AR, a “real”one, in 22 LR.

In time, I will endeavor to build another Aero Precision receiver set. (If ever I find another.) RightToBear has barrels of the proper twist, with feed ramps and non-chambered adapter bolts.
I don’t see how this could be less accurate than any other barrel and cartridge combination that would be installed. That is, what ever the barrel is capable of.

I do think there is more emphasis put into accuracy with the other rimfire rifles, than an AR build. I think that is more the people making them than the true outcome of the physical limitations of the platform.

I wonder if humans aren’t more forgiving of a (insert nice rifle brand here) rifle’s poor accuracy because of its beauty?

So, I’m in the “Go For It” camp, going as soon as I can to be in the “Done It” camp.:D
 
My above comments not withstanding, my buddy hit a steel plate at 300 yards with one of the S&W 15/22s I shot. I wasn't there so I don't know how frequently he hit it or how long it took to dial in, but I have no reason to doubt he hit it a few times.
 
My CMMG dedicated .22LR upper (on PSA lower) is the most accurate off-the-shelf semi-auto rimfire rifle I’ve ever owned or shot (including Marlin 60, Ruger 10/22, Winchester 190, Remington 552, etc.).
 
Having the sights so high over the bore can be an issue especially for people plinking at close ranges. Even compared to abnormally high iron sights like the globe, they are more than an inch taller and an more than 2 inches higher above the bore than some .22’s.

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So if all the rifles had say a 50 yard zero at 10 yards the top rifle would be -1.4” the middle one would be -.5” and the bottom one +.2”.

Move out and forget about up close and things get better. With a 3” zone, MPBR for the three would be, top to bottom, 91yd, 83yd and 77yd, with a 80, 71 and 65 yard zero, respectively.
 
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