Taurus "Executive Grade" Revolvers?

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wcwhitey said:
Absolutely, a good revolver check out is essential. My only return ever was a recent Charter product. It was the first revolver I purchased online and was given a good check before I did the paperwork. It was a good revolver for almost 200 rounds. I agree that a few bucks up front isn’t a total bad idea if it means getting a guaranteed winner. I said it before and will say it again that I think $350 is cheap for a revolver made in the US today. I often think how did they do it. But then again if I pay the price I want a good one!
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You know "Made in the U.S.A." doesn't mean what it use to. It basically could come into the country similar to an 80% AR15 receiver and then finished and assembled the rest of the way, and still be considered made here. Ask Springfield Arms about their 1911s.
 
Styx said:
You know "Made in the U.S.A." doesn't mean what it use to. It basically could come into the country similar to an 80% AR15 receiver and then finished and assembled the rest of the way, and still be considered made here. Ask Springfield Arms about their 1911s.
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No kidding, still much higher labor rates!
 
I have to ask it, are they still hand made in a Brazilian sweatshop? Oddly I think I some of these yesterday at the gun store, it was a revolver and a Taurus and I didn't recognize it or pay super close attention to it (because = Taurus) other than it seemed a bit pricey for a Taurus. Oh well maybe they're okay but I'll stick with S&W and Ruger.
 
SDGlock23 said:
I have to ask it, are they still hand made in a Brazilian sweatshop? Oddly I think I some of these yesterday at the gun store, it was a revolver and a Taurus and I didn't recognize it or pay super close attention to it (because = Taurus) other than it seemed a bit pricey for a Taurus. Oh well maybe they're okay but I'll stick with S&W and Ruger.
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Can you link to or cite to where Taurus are manufacturing their handguns in sweatshops?
 
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SDGlock23 said:
I have to ask it, are they still hand made in a Brazilian sweatshop?
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Gun Writer Jan Libourel used to really promote Taurus revolvers in his Guns And Ammo articles in the 1980s and 1990s. Including one trip to Brazil to the Taurus factory and it was not a "sweatshop". It was as well lit and modern looking as any machine shop I have ever been in. And since I grew up working in machine shops I have seen many of them. Do you really think Beretta would have had the model 92s made for the Brazilian army built in some 3rd world sweatshop?
 
ThomasT said:
Gun Writer Jan Libourel used to really promote Taurus revolvers in his Guns And Ammo articles in the 1980s and 1990s. Including one trip to Brazil to the Taurus factory and it was not a "sweatshop". It was as well lit and modern looking as any machine shop I have ever been in. And since I grew up working in machine shops I have seen many of them. Do you really think Beretta would have had the model 92s made for the Brazilian army built in some 3rd world sweatshop?
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Y'all done got trolled. :(
 
Given the experience I had buying a new S&W in december, I am not sure "just a taurus" carries the same meaning it once did! There were several people not giving a damn in the process of building my model 69. The hammer would push off in single action, which was difficult to get to in the first place because the main spring was too long and causing the hammer linkage to bind when trying to cock it. On top of that, the damn thing shot 21 inches high at 50 yards with the rear sight bottomed out! How does all that make it out the door?
 
someguy2800 said:
Given the experience I had buying a new S&W in december, I am not sure "just a taurus" carries the same meaning it once did! There were several people not giving a damn in the process of building my model 69. The hammer would push off in single action, which was difficult to get to in the first place because the main spring was too long and causing the hammer linkage to bind when trying to cock it. On top of that, the damn thing shot 21 inches high at 50 yards with the rear sight bottomed out! How does all that make it out the door?
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That is the exact same first hand user reports I've seen being reported over and over again. That is, S&W quality control has not been up to par not only on their revolvers, but on their semiautomatic too.. Can't say I see the same when it comes to Taurus and Ruger Revolvers, yet people will turn a blind eye and a death ear because it's a Smith. Like I said, people are bias and there's a clear double standard. They say the cliché "you get what you pay for" and "what's your life worth" to bash Taurus and Charter Arms with little to go on, but then with a straight face say that's why they rather buy a S&W... I say that as someone who perfers S&W revolvers above all others, and I own more Smiths (5 and counting) than anything other revolver, so I am being completely objective.

I still would rather own a S&W over aTaurus if all things were equal, but for half to 1/3 the price, I personally would not think twice about buying another Taurus.
 
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Styx said:
That is the exact same first hand user reports I've seen being reported over and over again. That is, S&W quality control has not been up to par not only on their revolvers, but on their semiautomatic too.. Can't say I see the same when it comes to Taurus and Ruger Revolvers, yet people will turn a blind eye and a death ear because it's a Smith. Like I said, people are bias and there's a clear double standard. They say the cliché "you get what you pay for" and "what's your life worth" to bash Taurus and Charter Arms with little to go on, but then with a straight face say that's why they rather buy a S&W... I say that as someone who perfers S&W revolvers above all others, and I own more Smiths (5 and counting) than anything other revolver, so I am being completely objective.

I still would rather own a S&W over aTaurus if all things were equal, but for half to 1/3 the price, I personally would not think twice about buying another Taurus.
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Both of my ruger’s also needed gunsmithing when I bought them so I’m not sure if any company still has any competent quality control. My 2 sp101’s both had an issue where the transfer bar would catch on the firing pin in double action causing everything to lock up until you released the trigger and pointed the muzzle up. A third one I shot at a demo range also did this. I fixed them both by taking them apart and chamfering the transfer bar. My 2nd one was also out of time but I was able to fix it by grinding on the cylinder latch link. At this point being 0/3 on having new revolvers function, along with the terrible springs and grips that they all come with, I just consider them to be partially finished kit when I buy them.
 
Styx said:
Can you link to or cite to where Taurus are manufacturing their handguns in sweatshops?
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After my last job it's hard to imagine sweatshops only existing in Brazil.

I have found the assumption that foreign made firearms are made in medieval working conditions laughable. They're all pretty much the same, everyone is using CNC machines now, the varying differences being in customer service.

The closest thing to real sweatshop work that I can think of in the gun industry (that I wouldn't call a sweatshop) is this:



I'm honestly amazed to see manual machine tools used to produce a modern firearm.
 
Styx said:
People LOVE and come out of the wood works just to bash Taurus even when they have no knowledge or firsthand experience with the model in question. Then when Taurus dares to do almost exactly what some were whining and complaining about, they STILL aren't happy and find an angle to STILL bash Taurus for... Taurus is damned if they do and damned if they don't. The elephant in the room is some have a strong bias against Taurus period, so no matter what they do and how good they get, they'll still come up with something to be negative about.
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Replace the word 'Taurus' with the word 'Lee', and the comment is still true.
 
CaptHank said:
Right from the start.... Made in Brazil
(1138) NEW Taurus 856 Executive Grade Review - Factory Tuned 38 Special +P in 4K - YouTube
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Thanks. Overall a very positive review. I’d have liked to see it with the sideplate off to see how the internal polish job looks but he gave a good view of the barrel and cylinder. I’m not so chuffed about the sights. It’s a point shooter, not a target piece. If you’re engaging past 20’ you’ll get into deep swamps legal wise. And if you know you’re going to need more range than 20’, grab a shotgun or a rifle. I’m not the least worried about where it’s made, either. Brazil is a first world country. If you’re concerned about working conditions, trash everything you have from China and never buy anything Chinese again.

I’m not in the market for one of those but if I come across one in a decent trade I’ll end up with it.
 
Forgive me for being snarky but isn’t calling a Taurus an “Executive Model” a little like calling a Yugo a limousine.
I just couldn’t resist. I’ve had some fine Tauri and a few not so fine. What they haven’t been is fantastic.
Oops! Just read the other thread with comments on the improved quality. I apologize for my unseemly comments. I suffer from too many years in the business and having too many sent back.
 
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