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What is the story on the M&P 10mm? Is it good or is it junk? It seems like YouTubers and others are often critical of it. Some say that it is inaccurate, that it cannot handle stout loads, that some loads will cause the magazine to eject, etc.

I ask because S&W has a $100 off rebate, which applies to their M&P 10mm line. However, I don’t want to buy a gun that will be problematic, even if I can score a good deal.

As for the critics, I have a difficult time believing that S&W dropped the ball in the 10mm as some of them seem to profess. I mean how often do we hear complaints about other M&P pistols having issues? How about rifles, revolvers, or even their shotgun? Sure, they might have quirks that some may dislike, but most cannot dispute S&W’s knack for putting out reliable guns.

That said, a manufacturer having other great product lines or a great platform in other calibers, does not mean that every product or caliber will be successful.

So with that, I ask you to share your experience with the M&P 10mm products. Please refrain from “I saw this or that in a YouTube” or “my gun shop said this or that.” I’m interested in the feedback and experience of actual users.

Thanks!
 
Buzznrose said:
There have been several 10MM threads lately. Did you search?

I know there were several folks who mentioned experience with the M&P 10MM

These two specifically come to mind...

https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/10mm-resurgence.914424/

and

https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/10mm.916220/
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Thanks. I’ve seen the threads popping up. Not sure if any specifically focus on the M&P 10mm and deliberately address the questions posed in my OP though.
 
The last gun I purchased from Smith and Wesson was the model 41 from the performance center. I had to send it back because it would not extract and or eject causing feeding issues. This is an expensive gun and from the performance center. I would have thought that I would not have issues with it but I did. So who knows maybe quality control has faltered a little enough to make a difference. I love my revolvers from Smith & Wesson but was disappointed with the semi-auto I purchased. Maybe their 10mm may suffer the same problems as my 41.
 
I like mine; I've had no issues to date with any ammo including 40 S&W loads and 200 gr DoubleTap loads. I got the Compact version with a manual safety. I had a G20 and a G29 prior to the Smith. In my hands it is more comfortable, and I shoot it more accurately than the Glocks. A big part of that is a lighter trigger. The Glocks were around 6 lbs, the Smith a touch under 5.

For me the option of a manual safety was what clinched the deal. I liked the Glocks, and as long as they are carried in a holster have no issue with the lack of a safety. I still own and use other Glock pistols. But for me 10mm is my hiking/camping outdoors pistol carried in bear country. When camping I was never comfortable with a Glock in my sleeping bag with a loaded chamber. With the addition of the manual safety, I'm OK with it. Otherwise, I'd have stayed with the Glocks.

How well it holds up is something we'll just have to wait and see. IMO we'll have a better idea in a few years. It's too early to tell either way right now.
 
Mine has been flawless so far.it puts 180 grain XTP's right where I point it.I have the short barrel version with the manual safety.It's the second M&P I bought and I think they're great pistols.
 
There's a pretty grumbly bunch out there. Enough so that I wouldn't pick up a S&W 10mm right now when there are so many other viable options available without the associated drama.
 
3549ACFC-844F-4810-BBF4-5E96101E8484.jpeg Bought it due to the discount. Ergonomics are fantastic and 100 rounds of 190 grain bonded jhp shot like a champ. I own a lot of glocks but am mostly brand agnostic. Seems like a great pistol in a great caliber.
 
Bought one a couple of weeks ago. Only been able to put about 20 rounds through it. Happy so far. I handled the Glock 20, the Sig 320, the Smith and the XD 10mm pistols. XDs just don't appeal to me, and while I liked the SIG I preferred the grip shape and overall feel of the Smith. It's also a bit more compact than the SIG. I wanted a higher capacity pistol than the 1911 platform I chose the model with the external safety. The trigger on my pistol has a strange little "catch" halfway through the trigger stroke, need to figure out what that's about. As for the cartridge, I wanted an outdoor pistol but my .44 mags are just not pleasant to shoot. So far the Smith 10mm is. Recoil not severe. What I'm reading is that there is a growing preference for the 10mm over the .45acp and the magnum revolvers.
 
I got the 4.6 inch with the safety for a woods gun. I preferred it over the G20 because the grip fit me better. The trigger is a lot better as well. I do not plan on putting a dot on it so I put a set of Dawson's non cowitness fibers on mine. I have about 500 rounds through her with no issues. Groups well with range fodder. Worth the price imo and the rebate is a bonus.
 
If somebody wants 10 mm Auto, I would say primary reason is to have a powerful semiauto pistol for hiking. If so, bit more weight wouldn't make difference. Actually, it will tame recoil of such powerful round and make pistol more controllable when firing several rounds in a hurry. IMHO, S&W 1006 is just superb:

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DA, very reliable, all stainless steel, no plastic to chip.

However, I think that there is even better pistol and caliber; S&W 4506-1 in 45 Super:

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Also, DA, all stainless steel 45 ACP*. However, this pistol could be easily converted to 45 Super. And that brings us to a custom made ammunition:

BUFFALO BORE 45 SUPER OUTDOORSMAN
255 gr. Hard Cast FN
1,090 fps from 5" pistol (tested)

See 45 SUPER OUTDOORSMAN (buffalobore.com)

If 45-255 bullet at 1050-1100 fps will go right through a cow Most Accurate 45 Colt +P Load? - Paco Kelly's Leverguns.com (levergunscommunity.org) , considering 8+1 rounds, and reliability of 4506-1 that will feed even empty brass, I doubt that hiker in lower 48 needs anything more than S&W 4506-1 in 45 Super with noted ammo.

NOTE: *This particular pistol has blue hammer and trigger. However, there are others with those parts in stainless. I uploaded this picture just to show variation in production, and because picture has the same width as of 1006 above. If I have this pistol with those blue parts, I will look for stainless replacements, or give them hard chrome finish.
 
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I'm sure there are some issues out there, but I wouldn't rely on YouTuber reviews. Most of them are crackpots that know very little about guns. They got into the 10mm fad for views and don't know how to handle a power platform. Just as many people will complain about a .45, it's not the gun. Chances are, if you are coming from a 9mm that you will complain about something as well. Most of those who will fire a power platform without issue will likely be due to a physical aspect of their own and not any type of skill. One thing you will learn when it comes to firearms malfunctions, it's never the shooter's fault, always the firearm. YouTubers will triple down on this fact. While there may be some modifications that will adapt the firearm to the shooter, adapting to the firearm will always be the correct way to fix an issue, imo.
Death-gripping is popular these days.
 
Onty said:
If somebody wants 10 mm Auto, I would say primary reason is to have a powerful semiauto pistol for hiking. If so, bit more weight wouldn't make difference. Actually, it will tame recoil of such powerful round and make pistol more controllable when firing several rounds in a hurry. IMHO, S&W 1006 is just superb.
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Agree on all but hiking. The 1006 is a fine 10MM platform but it’s heavy on the hip. After wearing mine several times hiking up and down ridges and washes for hours it just felt like a rock on my hip. That’s the reason why I eventually went to a G20.
 
Onty said:
If somebody wants 10 mm Auto, I would say primary reason is to have a powerful semiauto pistol for hiking. If so, bit more weight wouldn't make difference. Actually, it will tame recoil of such powerful round and make pistol more controllable when firing several rounds in a hurry. IMHO, S&W 1006 is just superb:

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DA, very reliable, all stainless steel, no plastic to chip.

However, I think that there is even better pistol and caliber; S&W 4506-1 in 45 Super:

View attachment 1138436

Also, DA, all stainless steel 45 ACP*. However, this pistol could be easily converted to 45 Super. And that brings us to a custom made ammunition:

BUFFALO BORE 45 SUPER OUTDOORSMAN
255 gr. Hard Cast FN
1,090 fps from 5" pistol (tested)

See 45 SUPER OUTDOORSMAN (buffalobore.com)

If 45-255 bullet at 1050-1100 fps will go right through a cow Most Accurate 45 Colt +P Load? - Paco Kelly's Leverguns.com (levergunscommunity.org) , considering 8+1 rounds, and reliability of 4506-1 that will feed even empty brass, I doubt that hiker in lower 48 needs anything more than S&W 4506-1 in 45 Super with noted ammo.

NOTE: *This particular pistol has blue hammer and trigger. However, there are others with those parts in stainless. I uploaded this picture just to show variation in production, and because picture has the same width as of 1006 above. If I have this pistol with those blue parts, I will look for stainless replacements, or give them hard chrome finish.
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I had Jack Huntington set my 4506 up to run 45 Super. Bees knees.
 
JDeere said:
Have not seen any one on this or other forums? Y tube don't count, consider the source...
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Seriously. You'd be quite gullible to think the YouTubers are genuine. They are really good at what they do. Believe me when I say, when it comes to YouTubers, all is one and one is all. The advice I can give, if a great number of tubers are against the M&P, then it's probably a good platform. In fact, I think I will get one now.
Not!!
I'm not fixing what ain't broke. I'm never hoping on the 10mm boat. I have a perfect running 45super platform. But 45super requires a modified gun, 10mm doesn't, but, well... I thought the idea of "10mm is better than 45super" is that it is readily available, reliable, and doesn't require modifications. Apparently it's not such a perfect round. What's really going on?
All I can say is that I wouldn't have problems with the gun even if I was sold the worst one off the line.
 
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In the end, and with a lingering bad XTEN taste in my mouth, I could not pull the trigger on the 4" M&P 10mm despite the $100 incentive. Having had a very good overall experience with my existing full sized XDM-10, though not without its own minor idiosyncrasies, I have a second XDM-10 inbound, this time the 3.8 OSP with the "gear up" 4 additional magazine bonus deal.
DesertFox said:
There's a pretty grumbly bunch out there. Enough so that I wouldn't pick up a S&W 10mm right now when there are so many other viable options available without the associated drama.
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