In which states can you still buy a firearm from a local private seller

Kentucky is a free acquisition state. No permits or registration. No CCDW needed for concealed or open carry of firearms. A CCDW is still appreciated though when filling out a 4473 as it negates the call in.
 
The interesting thing about Massachusetts is that you have to have a Gun Permit to own and carry a firearm. Once you have that license though you can do private party transfers in State without too much of an issue. It's done through a State Web Site and takes about 5 minutes time to do a transfer. As a buyer you can acquire as many guns as you want this way. For a seller you're allowed 4 sales this way in a calendar year. When it comes to Private Transfers it's about the only non-draconian thing about this state when it comes to firearms.
This, too, is draconian is my view. It is. x#&##xx**, oh never mind.
 
The interesting thing about Massachusetts is that you have to have a Gun Permit to own and carry a firearm. Once you have that license though you can do private party transfers in State without too much of an issue. It's done through a State Web Site and takes about 5 minutes time to do a transfer. As a buyer you can acquire as many guns as you want this way. For a seller you're allowed 4 sales this way in a calendar year. When it comes to Private Transfers it's about the only non-draconian thing about this state when it comes to firearms.
That’s pretty draconian.
 
I don't think Michigan should be on that list.
Unfortunately, the law differs.


28.422 License to purchase, carry, possess, or transport pistol; issuance; qualifications; applications; sale
of pistol; exemptions; transfer of ownership to heir or devisee; nonresident; active duty status; forging
application as felony; implementation during business hours.
Sec. 2. (1) Except as otherwise provided in this act, a person shall not purchase, carry, possess, or transport
a pistol in this state without first having obtained a license for the pistol as prescribed in this section.
(2) A person who brings a pistol into this state who is on leave from active duty with the armed forces of the United States or
who has been discharged from active duty with the armed forces of the United States shall obtain a license for the pistol within
30 days after his or her arrival in this state.
(3) The commissioner or chief of police of a city, township, or village police department that issues licenses to purchase,
carry, possess, or transport pistols, or his or her duly authorized deputy, or the sheriff or his or her duly authorized deputy, in the
parts of a county not included within a city, township, or village having an organized police department, in discharging the duty
to issue licenses shall with due speed and diligence issue licenses to purchase, carry, possess, or transport pistols to qualified
applicants unless he or she has probable cause to believe that the applicant would be a threat to himself or herself or to other
individuals, or would commit an offense with the pistol that would violate a law of this or another state or of the United States.
An applicant is qualified if all of the following circumstances exist:
(a) The person is not subject to an order or disposition for which he or she has received notice and an opportunity for a
hearing, and which was entered into the law enforcement information network under any of the following:
(i) Section 464a of the mental health code, 1974 PA 258, MCL 330.1464a.
(ii) Section 5107 of the estates and protected individuals code, 1998 PA 386, MCL 700.5107, or section 444a of former 1978
PA 642.
(iii) Section 2950 of the revised judicature act of 1961, 1961 PA 236, MCL 600.2950.
(iv) Section 2950a of the revised judicature act of 1961, 1961 PA 236, MCL 600.2950a.
(v) Section 14 of 1846 RS 84, MCL 552.14.
(vi) Section 6b of chapter V of the code of criminal procedure, 1927 PA 175, MCL 765.6b, if the order has a condition
imposed under section 6b(3) of chapter V of the code of criminal procedure, 1927 PA 175, MCL 765.6b.
(vii) Section 16b of chapter IX of the code of criminal procedure, 1927 PA 175, MCL 769.16b.
(b) The person is 18 years of age or older or, if the seller is licensed under 18 USC 923, is 21 years of age or older.
(c) The person is a citizen of the United States or an alien lawfully admitted into the United States and is a legal resident
of this state. For the purposes of this section, a person is considered a legal resident of this state if any of the following apply:
(i) The person has a valid, lawfully obtained Michigan driver license issued under the Michigan vehicle code, 1949 PA 300,
MCL 257.1 to 257.923, or an official state personal identification card issued under 1972 PA 222, MCL 28.291 to 28.300.
(ii) The person is lawfully registered to vote in this state.
(iii) The person is on active duty status with the United States armed forces and is stationed outside of this state, but the
person’s home of record is in this state.
(iv) The person is on active duty status with the United States armed forces and is permanently stationed in this state, but the
person’s home of record is in another state.
(d) A felony charge or a criminal charge listed in section 5b against the person is not pending at the time of application.
(e) The person is not prohibited from possessing, using, transporting, selling, purchasing, carrying, shipping, receiving, or
distributing a firearm under section 224f of the Michigan penal code, 1931 PA 328, MCL 750.224f.
(f) The person has not been adjudged insane in this state or elsewhere unless he or she has been adjudged restored to sanity
by court order.
(g) The person is not under an order of involuntary commitment in an inpatient or outpatient setting due to mental illness.
(h) The person has not been adjudged legally incapacitated in this state or elsewhere. This subdivision does not apply to a
person who has had his or her legal capacity restored by order of the court.
(4) Applications for licenses under this section shall be signed by the applicant under oath upon forms provided by the
director of the department of state police. Licenses to purchase, carry, possess, or transport pistols shall be executed in triplicate


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upon forms provided by the director of the department of state police and shall be signed by the licensing authority. Three
copies of the license shall be delivered to the applicant by the licensing authority. A license is void unless used within 30 days
after the date it is issued.
(5) If an individual purchases or otherwise acquires a pistol, the seller shall fill out the license forms describing the pistol,
together with the date of sale or acquisition, and sign his or her name in ink indicating that the pistol was sold to or otherwise
acquired by the purchaser. The purchaser shall also sign his or her name in ink indicating the purchase or other acquisition of
the pistol from the seller. The seller may retain a copy of the license as a record of the transaction. The purchaser shall receive
2 copies of the license. The purchaser shall return 1 copy of the license to the licensing authority within 10 days after the date
the pistol is purchased or acquired. The return of the copy to the licensing authority may be made in person or may be made
by first-class mail or certified mail sent within the 10-day period to the proper address of the licensing authority. A purchaser
who fails to comply with the requirements of this subsection is responsible for a state civil infraction and may be fined not
more than $250.00. If a purchaser is found responsible for a state civil infraction under this subsection, the court shall notify
the department of state police of that determination.
(6) Within 10 days after receiving the license copy returned under subsection (5), the licensing authority shall electronically
enter the information into the pistol entry database as required by the department of state police if it has the ability to electronically
enter that information. If the licensing authority does not have that ability, the licensing authority shall provide that information
to the department of state police in a manner otherwise required by the department of state police. Any licensing authority that
provided pistol descriptions to the department of state police under former section 9 of this act shall continue to provide pistol
descriptions to the department of state police under this subsection. Within 48 hours after entering or otherwise providing the
information on the license copy returned under subsection (5) to the department of state police, the licensing authority shall
forward the copy of the license to the department of state police. The purchaser has the right to obtain a copy of the information
placed in the pistol entry database under this subsection to verify the accuracy of that information. The licensing authority may
charge a fee not to exceed $1.00 for the cost of providing the copy. The licensee may carry, use, possess, and transport the
pistol for 30 days beginning on the date of purchase or acquisition only while he or she is in possession of his or her copy of
the license. However, the person is not required to have the license in his or her possession while carrying, using, possessing,
or transporting the pistol after this period.
(7) This section does not apply to the purchase of pistols from wholesalers by dealers regularly engaged in the business of
selling pistols at retail, or to the sale, barter, or exchange of pistols kept as relics or curios not made for modern ammunition or
permanently deactivated.
(8) This section does not prevent the transfer of ownership of pistols to an heir or devisee, whether by testamentary bequest
or by the laws of intestacy regardless of whether the pistol is registered with this state. An individual who has inherited a
pistol shall obtain a license as required in this section within 30 days of taking physical possession of the pistol. The license
may be signed by a next of kin of the decedent or the person authorized to dispose of property under the estates and protected
individuals code, 1998 PA 386, MCL 700.1101 to 700.8206, including when the next of kin is the individual inheriting the
pistol. If the heir or devisee is not qualified for a license under this section, the heir or devisee may direct the next of kin
or person authorized to dispose of property under the estates and protected individuals code, 1998 PA 386, MCL 700.1101
to 700.8206, to dispose of the pistol in any manner that is lawful and the heir or devisee considers appropriate. The person
authorized to dispose of property under the estates and protected individuals code, 1998 PA 386, MCL 700.1101 to 700.8206,
is not required to obtain a license under this section if he or she takes temporary lawful possession of the pistol in the process
of disposing of the pistol pursuant to the decedent’s testamentary bequest or the laws of intestacy. A law enforcement agency
may not seize or confiscate a pistol being transferred by testamentary bequest or the laws of intestacy unless the heir or devisee
does not qualify for obtaining a license under this section and the next of kin or person authorized to dispose of property under
the estates and protected individuals code, 1998 PA 386, MCL 700.1101 to 700.8206, is unable to retain his or her temporary
possession of the pistol or find alternative lawful storage. If a law enforcement agency seizes or confiscates a pistol under this
subsection, the heir or devisee who is not qualified to obtain a license under this section retains ownership interest in the pistol
and, within 30 days of being notified of the seizure or confiscation, may file with a court of competent jurisdiction to direct the
law enforcement agency to lawfully transfer or otherwise dispose of the pistol. A pistol seized under this subsection shall not be
destroyed, sold, or used while in possession of the seizing entity or its agents until 30 days have passed since the heir or devisee
has been notified of the seizure and no legal action regarding the lawful possession or ownership of the seized pistol has been
filed in any court and is pending. As used in this subsection:
(a) “Devisee” means that term as defined in section 1103 of the estates and protected individuals code, 1998 PA 386, MCL700.1103.
(b) “Heir” means that term as defined in section 1104 of the estates and protected individuals code, 1998 PA 386, MCL700.1104.
(9) An individual who is not a resident of this state is not required to obtain a license under this section if all of the following
conditions apply:
(a) The individual is licensed in his or her state of residence to purchase, carry, or transport a pistol.
(b) The individual is in possession of the license described in subdivision (a).
(c) The individual is the owner of the pistol he or she possesses, carries, or transports.
(d) The individual possesses the pistol for a lawful purpose.
(e) The individual is in this state for a period of 180 days or less and does not intend to establish residency in this state.
(10) An individual who is a nonresident of this state shall present the license described in subsection (9)(a) upon the demand
of a police officer. An individual who violates this subsection is guilty of a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment for not
more than 90 days or a fine of not more than $100.00, or both.


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(11) The licensing authority may require a person claiming active duty status with the United States armed forces to provide
proof of 1 or both of the following:
(a) The person’s home of record.
(b) Permanent active duty assignment in this state.
(12) This section does not apply to a person who is younger than the age required under subsection (3)(b) and who possesses
a pistol if all of the following conditions apply:
(a) The person is not otherwise prohibited from possessing that pistol.
(b) The person is at a recognized target range.
(c) The person possesses the pistol for the purpose of target practice or instruction in the safe use of a pistol.
(d) The person is in the physical presence and under the direct supervision of any of the following:
(i) The person’s parent.
(ii) The person’s guardian.
(iii) An individual who is 21 years of age or older, who is authorized by the person’s parent or guardian, and who has
successfully completed a pistol safety training course or class that meets the requirements of section 5j(1)(a), (b), or (d), and
received a certificate of completion.
(e) The owner of the pistol is physically present.
(13) This section does not apply to a person who possesses a pistol if all of the following conditions apply:
(a) The person is not otherwise prohibited from possessing a pistol.
(b) The person is at a recognized target range or shooting facility.
(c) The person possesses the pistol for the purpose of target practice or instruction in the safe use of a pistol.
(d) The owner of the pistol is physically present and supervising the use of the pistol.
(14) A person who forges any matter on an application for a license under this section is guilty of a felony, punishable by
imprisonment for not more than 4 years or a fine of not more than $2,000.00, or both.
(15) A licensing authority shall implement this section during all of the licensing authority’s normal business hours and shall
set hours for implementation that allow an applicant to use the license within the time period set forth in subsection (4).
History: 1927, Act 372, Eff. Sept. 5, 1927;—CL 1929, 16750;—Am. 1931, Act 333, Imd. Eff. June 16, 1931;—Am. 1941, Act 112, Imd. Eff. May 21,
1941;—Am. 1943, Act 51, Imd. Eff. Mar. 30, 1943;—CL 1948, 28.422;—Am. 1949, Act 170, Eff. Sept. 23, 1949; Am. 1957, Act 259, Eff. Sept. 27, 1957;—
Am. 1964, Act 216, Eff. Aug. 28, 1964;—Am. 1967, Act 158, Eff. Nov. 2, 1967;—Am. 1968, Act 301, Eff. Nov. 15, 1968;—Am. 1972, Act 15, Imd. Eff.
Feb. 19, 1972;—Am. 1986, Act 161, Eff. Aug. 1, 1986;—Am. 1990, Act 320, Eff. Mar. 28, 1991;—Am. 1992, Act 219, Imd. Eff. Oct. 13, 1992;—Am. 1992,
Act 220, Imd. Eff. Oct. 13, 1992;—Am. 1994, Act 338, Eff. Apr. 1, 1996;—Am. 2004, Act 101, Imd. Eff. May 13, 2004;—Am. 2008, Act 195, Eff. Jan. 7,
2009;—Am. 2008, Act 406, Imd. Eff. Jan. 6, 2009;—Am. 2010, Act 20, Imd. Eff. Mar. 25, 2010;—Am. 2012, Act 377, Imd. Eff. Dec. 18, 2012;—Am. 2014,
Act 201, Imd. Eff. June 24, 2014;—Am. 2015, Act 37, Imd. Eff. May 21, 2015;—Am. 2015, Act 200, Eff. Feb. 22, 2016.
Constitutionality: The Michigan Court of Appeals held in Chan v City of Troy, 220 Mich App 376; 559 NW2d 374 (1997), that the citizen requirement,
now MCL 28.422(3)(c), for a permit to purchase a pistol contained in MCL 28.422(3)(b) violates the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment
to the United States Constitution and is unconstitutional.
Popular name: CCW
Popular name: Concealed Weapons
Popular name: CPL
Popular name: Right to Carry
Popular name: Shall Issue
28.422a Individuals not required to obtain license; completion of record by seller; duties of purchaser;
noncompliance as state civil infraction; penalty; entering information into pistol entry database;
obtaining copy of information; exemption; material false statement as felony; penalty; rules; verification;
definitions.
Sec. 2a. (1) The following individuals are not required to obtain a license under section 2 to purchase, carry, possess, use,
or transport a pistol:
(a) An individual licensed under section 5b, except for an individual who has an emergency license issued under section 5a(4)
or a receipt serving as a concealed pistol license under section 5b(9) or 5l(3).
(b) A federally licensed firearms dealer.
(c) An individual who purchases a pistol from a federally licensed firearms dealer in compliance with 18 USC 922(t).
(d) An individual currently employed as a police officer who is licensed or certified under the Michigan commission on law
enforcement standards act, 1965 PA 203, MCL 28.601 to 28.615.
(2) If an individual described in subsection (1) purchases or otherwise acquires a pistol, the seller shall complete a record
in triplicate on a form provided by the department of state police. The record shall include the purchaser’s concealed weapon
license number, the number of the purchaser’s license or certificate issued under the Michigan commission on law enforcement
standards act, 1965 PA 203, MCL 28.601 to 28.615, or, if the purchaser is a federally licensed firearms dealer, his or her dealer
license number. If the purchaser is not licensed under section 5b or does not have a license or certificate issued under the
Michigan commission on law enforcement standards act, 1965 PA 203, MCL 28.601 to 28.615, and is not a federally licensed
firearms dealer, the record shall include the dealer license number of the federally licensed firearms dealer who is selling the
pistol. The purchaser shall sign the record. The seller may retain 1 copy of the record. The purchaser shall receive 2 copies of

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the record and forward 1 copy to the police department of the city, village, or township in which the purchaser resides, or, if
the purchaser does not reside in a city, village, or township having a police department, to the county sheriff, within 10 days
following the purchase or acquisition. The return of the copy to the police department or county sheriff may be made in person
or may be made by first-class mail or certified mail sent within the 10-day period to the proper address of the police department
or county sheriff. A purchaser who fails to comply with the requirements of this subsection is responsible for a state civil
infraction and may be fined not more than $250.00. If a purchaser is found responsible for a state civil infraction under this
subsection, the court shall notify the department of state police. If the purchaser is licensed under section 5b, the court shall
notify the licensing authority of that determination.
(3) Within 10 days after receiving the record copy returned under subsection (2), the police department or county sheriff
shall electronically enter the information into the pistol entry database as required by the department of state police if it has the
ability to electronically enter that information. If the police department or county sheriff does not have that ability, the police
department or county sheriff shall provide that information to the department of state police in a manner otherwise required
by the department of state police. Any police department or county sheriff that provided pistol descriptions to the department
of state police under former section 9 of this act shall continue to provide pistol descriptions to the department of state police
under this subsection. Within 48 hours after entering or otherwise providing the information on the record copy returned under
subsection (2) to the department of state police, the police department or county sheriff shall forward the copy of the record to
the department of state police. The purchaser has the right to obtain a copy of the information placed in the pistol entry database
under this subsection to verify the accuracy of that information. The police department or county sheriff may charge a fee not
to exceed $1.00 for the cost of providing the copy. The purchaser may carry, use, possess, and transport the pistol for 30 days
beginning on the date of purchase or acquisition only while he or she is in possession of his or her copy of the record. However,
the person is not required to have the record in his or her possession while carrying, using, possessing, or transporting the pistol
after this period.
(4) This section does not apply to a person or entity exempt under section 2(7).
(5) An individual who makes a material false statement on a sales record under this section is guilty of a felony punishable
by imprisonment for not more than 4 years or a fine of not more than $2,500.00, or both.
(6) The department of state police may promulgate rules to implement this section.
(7) The Michigan commission on law enforcement standards shall provide license or certificate information, as applicable,
to the department of state police to verify the requirements of this section.
(8) As used in this section:
(a) “Federally licensed firearms dealer” means a person licensed to sell firearms under 18 USC 923.
(b) “Person” means an individual, partnership, corporation, association, or other legal entity.
History: Add. 2000, Act 381, Eff. July 1, 2001;—Am. 2008, Act 194, Eff. Jan. 7, 2009;—Am. 2010, Act 210, Eff. Feb. 15, 2011; Am. 2012, Act 377, Imd.
Eff. Dec. 18, 2012;—Am. 2013, Act 3, Eff. Mar. 12, 2013;—Am. 2015, Act 3, Eff. Dec. 1, 2015;—Am. 2016, Act 6, Eff. May 2, 2016;—Am. 2016, Act 301,
Eff. Jan. 2, 2017.
Compiler’s note: Former MCL 28.422a, which pertained to a basic pistol safety brochure, was repealed by Act 220 of 1992, Imd. Eff. Oct. 13, 1992.
Popular name: CCW
Popular name: Concealed Weapons
Popular name: CPL
Popular name: Right to Carry
Popular name: Shall Issue
28.422b Entry of order or disposition into law enforcement information network; written notice; person
subject of order; request to amend inaccuracy; notice of grant or denial of request; hearing; entry of
personal protection order; service required.
Sec. 2b. (1) Except as provided in subsection (5), upon entry of an order or disposition into the law enforcement information
network under any provision of law described in section 2(3)(a), the department of state police shall immediately send written
notice of that entry to the person who is the subject of the order or disposition. The notice shall be sent by first-class mail to the
last known address of the person. The notice shall include at least all of the following:
(a) The name of the person.
(b) The date the order or disposition was entered into the law enforcement information network.
(c) A statement that the person cannot obtain a license to purchase a pistol or obtain a concealed weapon license until the
order or disposition is removed from the law enforcement information network.
(d) A statement that the person may request that the state police correct or expunge inaccurate information entered into the
law enforcement information network.
(2) A person who is the subject of an order entered into the law enforcement information network under any provision of law
described in section 2(3)(a) may request that the department of state police do either of the following:
(a) Amend an inaccuracy in the information entered into the law enforcement information network under any provision of
law described in section 2(3)(a).
(b) Expunge the person’s name and other information concerning the person from the law enforcement information network
regarding 1 or more specific entries in the law enforcement information network under any provision of law described in
section 2(3)(a) because 1 or more of the following circumstances exist:
(i) The person is not subject to an order of involuntary commitment in an inpatient or outpatient setting due to mental illness.
 
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Unfortunately, the law differs.
Is that up to date? It use to be that to buy a "handgun" in Mi. you had to go get a permit, that stopped a few years ago.

Now buying a handgun is just like buying a long gun, fill out the 4473, they do a background check and you walk out with the hand gun.

DM
 
http://www.legislature.mi.gov/documents/publications/firearms.pdf


28.422 License to purchase, carry, possess, or transport pistol; issuance; qualifications; applications; sale
of pistol; exemptions; transfer of ownership to heir or devisee; nonresident; active duty status; forging
application as felony; implementation during business hours.
Sec. 2. (1) Except as otherwise provided in this act, a person shall not purchase, carry, possess, or transport
a pistol in this state without first having obtained a license for the pistol as prescribed in this section.
(2) A person who brings a pistol into this state who is on leave from active duty with the armed forces of the United States or
who has been discharged from active duty with the armed forces of the United States shall obtain a license for the pistol within
30 days after his or her arrival in this state.
(3) The commissioner or chief of police of a city, townsh
 
Now buying a handgun is just like buying a long gun, fill out the 4473, they do a background check and you walk out with the hand gun.

DM
You have to do that with a private seller though. That's what the OP is asking. In which states do you still not have to do that? Here in Idaho, or in Ohio, where I used to live, for example, if an individual wants to sell a gun to another individual, they can simply exchange gun for money (or whatever else is being traded) and walk away. No paperwork of any kind is legally required.
 
New Mexico . . . . there's nothing prohibiting 2 people from crossing state lines to say texas, making the transaction and coming back, or selling an old gun and saying it was sold before the law went into effect.
I'm sure you meant to say nothing except federal law and the fact that it would be illegal, right?
 
I'm sure you meant to say nothing except federal law and the fact that it would be illegal, right?

Which part is illegal? Selling the gun in another state? Buying the gun in another state? Unless it's a handgun or NFA item, obviously.

Not arguing the point, but wondering what federal law they're breaking.
 
Which part is illegal? Selling the gun in another state? Buying the gun in another state? Unless it's a handgun or NFA item, obviously.

Not arguing the point, but wondering what federal law they're breaking.
Residents of different states cannot legally sell firearms to each other without transferring the firearm through an FFL.
 
Which part is illegal? Selling the gun in another state? Buying the gun in another state? Unless it's a handgun or NFA item, obviously.

Not arguing the point, but wondering what federal law they're breaking.
The original comment was about residents of one state going to another to make a transfer. At the point of transaction, NEITHER the buyer nor the seller is a resident of the state in which the transfer is taking place. Nor is either one an FFL, as far as I could tell from the comments. I’m pretty sure that would violate 18 USC 922.
 
Which part is illegal? Selling the gun in another state? Buying the gun in another state? Unless it's a handgun or NFA item, obviously.

Not arguing the point, but wondering what federal law they're breaking.

This has been covered multiple times here over the years. And as I look at what I've posted several times I notice that in trying to paraphrase the law in a way that makes things clearer, the "simplification" doesn't really address the situation, although the law itself would have been more clear. But let's see if the following helps:

  1. Under federal law, any transfer of a gun (with a few, narrow exceptions, e. g., by bequest under a will) from a resident of one State to a resident of another, or taking place in a State other than the transferee's State of residence, must be through an FFL. And a handgun must be transferred through an FFL in the transferee's State of residence. The transfer must comply with all the requirements of the State in which the transfer is being done as well as all federal formalities (e. g., completion of a 4473, etc.). There are no exceptions under the applicable federal laws for gifts, whether between relatives or otherwise, nor is there any exception for transactions between relatives.

  2. In the case of handguns, it must be an FFL in the transferee's State of residence. You may obtain a handgun in a State other than your State of residence, BUT it must be shipped by the transferor to an FFL in your State of residence to transfer the handgun to you.

  3. In the case of long guns, it may be any FFL as long as (1) the long gun is legal in the transferee's State of residence; and (2) the transfer complies with the laws of the State in which it takes place; and (3) the transfer complies with the law of the transferee's State of residence. In connection with the transfer of a long gun, some FFLs will not want to handle the transfer to a resident of another State, because they may be uncertain about the laws of that State. And if the transferee resides in some States (e. g., California), the laws of the State may be such that an out-of-state FFL will not be able to conduct a transfer that complies.

  4. There are no exceptions under the applicable federal laws for gifts, whether between relatives or otherwise, nor is there any exception for transactions between relatives.

  5. The relevant federal laws may be found at: 18 USC 922(a)(3); 18 USC 922(a)(5); and 18 USC 922(b)(3).

  6. Here's what the statutes say:
    18 U.S.C. 922. Unlawful acts

    (a) It shall be unlawful—
    ...

    (3) for any person, other than a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector to transport into or receive in the State where he resides (or if the person is a corporation or other business entity, the State where it maintains a place of business) any firearm purchased or otherwise obtained by such person outside that State, except that this paragraph

    (A) shall not preclude any person who lawfully acquires a firearm by bequest or intestate succession in a State other than his State of residence from transporting the firearm into or receiving it in that State, if it is lawful for such person to purchase or possess such firearm in that State,

    (B) shall not apply to the transportation or receipt of a firearm obtained in conformity with subsection (b)(3) of this section, and

    (C) shall not apply to the transportation of any firearm acquired in any State prior to the effective date of this chapter;​

    ...

    (5) for any person (other than a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector) to transfer, sell, trade, give, transport, or deliver any firearm to any person (other than a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector) who the transferor knows or has reasonable cause to believe does not reside in (or if the person is a corporation or other business entity, does not maintain a place of business in) the State in which the transferor resides; except that this paragraph shall not apply to

    (A) the transfer, transportation, or delivery of a firearm made to carry out a bequest of a firearm to, or an acquisition by intestate succession of a firearm by, a person who is permitted to acquire or possess a firearm under the laws of the State of his residence, and

    (B) the loan or rental of a firearm to any person for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes;​

    ....

    (b) It shall be unlawful for any licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector to sell or deliver --
    ...

    (3) any firearm to any person who the licensee knows or has reasonable cause to believe does not reside in (or if the person is a corporation or other business entity, does not maintain a place of business in) the State in which the licensee's place of business is located, except that this paragraph

    (A) shall not apply to the sale or delivery of any rifle or shotgun to a resident of a State other than a State in which the licensee's place of business is located if the transferee meets in person with the transferor to accomplish the transfer, and the sale, delivery, and receipt fully comply with the legal conditions of sale in both such States (and any licensed manufacturer, importer or dealer shall be presumed, for purposes of this subparagraph, in the absence of evidence to the contrary, to have had actual knowledge of the State laws and published ordinances of both States), and

    (B) shall not apply to the loan or rental of a firearm to any person for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes;​
    ...
  7. Violation of these federal laws is punishable by up to five years in federal prison and/or a fine. It also results in a lifetime loss of gun rights.
 
Residents of different states cannot legally sell firearms to each other without transferring the firearm through an FFL.
This has been covered multiple times here over the years. And as I look at what I've posted several times I notice that in trying to paraphrase the law in a way that makes things clearer, the "simplification" doesn't really address the situation, although the law itself would have been more clear. But let's see if the following helps:

  1. Under federal law, any transfer of a gun (with a few, narrow exceptions, e. g., by bequest under a will) from a resident of one State to a resident of another, or taking place in a State other than the transferee's State of residence, must be through an FFL. And a handgun must be transferred through an FFL in the transferee's State of residence. The transfer must comply with all the requirements of the State in which the transfer is being done as well as all federal formalities (e. g., completion of a 4473, etc.). There are no exceptions under the applicable federal laws for gifts, whether between relatives or otherwise, nor is there any exception for transactions between relatives.

  2. In the case of handguns, it must be an FFL in the transferee's State of residence. You may obtain a handgun in a State other than your State of residence, BUT it must be shipped by the transferor to an FFL in your State of residence to transfer the handgun to you.

  3. In the case of long guns, it may be any FFL as long as (1) the long gun is legal in the transferee's State of residence; and (2) the transfer complies with the laws of the State in which it takes place; and (3) the transfer complies with the law of the transferee's State of residence. In connection with the transfer of a long gun, some FFLs will not want to handle the transfer to a resident of another State, because they may be uncertain about the laws of that State. And if the transferee resides in some States (e. g., California), the laws of the State may be such that an out-of-state FFL will not be able to conduct a transfer that complies.

  4. There are no exceptions under the applicable federal laws for gifts, whether between relatives or otherwise, nor is there any exception for transactions between relatives.

  5. The relevant federal laws may be found at: 18 USC 922(a)(3); 18 USC 922(a)(5); and 18 USC 922(b)(3).

  6. Here's what the statutes say:
  7. Violation of these federal laws is punishable by up to five years in federal prison and/or a fine. It also results in a lifetime loss of gun rights.

Okay, thanks. Florida had gotten rid of its contiguous states rule a while back and I heard "you can buy a long gun in any state now!" without hearing the part about "but it has to be from a dealer".

Good thing it never came up.
 
New Mexico has "universal background checks" but there's no gun registration here at all other than 4473s, the law is completely unenforceable, all but 2 sheriffs in the state came out against the law saying they won't enforce it, there's nothing prohibiting 2 people from crossing state lines to say texas, making the transaction and coming back, or selling an old gun and saying it was sold before the law went into effect.

Just some more stupidity from Santa Fe. There is no way it could be enforced unless a sale was actually witnessed by an officer of the law. Also it does not apply to sales between relatives.

This bit of legislation caused Walmart to quit selling guns in the state. Their excuse was just as lame as the law and they gave up a lot of revenue by doing so proving that Walmart top management isn't all that smart either.

This year the stupidity continued and now we have a law against straw purchases :cool: and some that questioned why it was even considered went along and voted for it in the end. Tell you what, I believe you could collect 80% of the brains in state government, throw them all in one quart jar, and they would just rattle around inside when it was shaken.
 
Unless I am mis-remembering, FOPA 1986 removed the "contiguous states" part of 18 USC 922, a federal law change and not merely a State level change. (Although FL mad have struck any such language they had to be in line with Federal Law.)

Yeah, Florida had a statute mirroring federal law, and didn't change it in the 80s. It was decades later.
 
Some clarification on PA, you still can with rifles/shotguns. The restrictions only apply to the private sale of handguns.
 
South Carolina has no restrictions on private gun sales.

Interestingly, my dad bought & sold at a local flea market years ago and federal agents would regularly breeze thru checking on individuals selling handguns, but not long guns. Not sure exactly what they were looking for but regularly talked to anyone who sold handguns, or at least sold more than one handgun a day. Got to the point where no one would put out handguns on tables but I'd regularly ask 'Got any pistols?' and almost everyone had 'one in the glovebox, didn't bring it to sell but I'll let it go if the price is right'.
 
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