2nd Coyote attack on child in NJ's gun free utopia

gunsmith · May 23, 2007

I know, NJ folks get upset when I describe NJ that way, but, like
CA gave us Fienstine you guys gave us Lautenberg....
Give the giants and jets back too

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,274597,00.html

MIDDLETOWN, N.J. — A small child was bitten by a coyote, the second such attack in this town in less than two months, authorities said.

The 5-year-old boy was bitten Monday evening while walking in the street near his home with his 8-year-old sister, Township Administrator Robert Czech said. The animal ran off when the girl screamed.

The boy, whose name wasn't released, suffered injuries to his face and back of his head requiring several stitches, police Lt. John McGuire said. He was treated and released at Riverview Medical Center in Red Bank.

The attack came less than seven weeks after police said a coyote grabbed a toddler who was playing in the back yard April 6. Relatives chased the animal away, and efforts to catch it turned up nothing. The 22-month-old boy, Liam Sadler, had to undergo rabies shots.

Soon after Monday's attack, a coyote was spotted in the same housing development. Police fired a shot and the animal appeared to twitch, but a search found neither a carcass nor a blood trail.

KINGMAX · May 23, 2007

The community needs to get anamial control involved with some traps.

TallPine · May 23, 2007

What is it with coyotes this year?

We and our neighbors have lost a bunch of cats this spring

Big Calhoun · May 23, 2007

Middletown, NJ is in the central part of the state. IIRC, 'Animal Control' is a voluntary office out there and they're mostly trained to domesticated pets. Anything beyond that and most communities look to Northern and Southern Jersey which has more rural areas and Animal Control officers with a little more experience.

bclark1 · May 23, 2007

You guys are such jerks! It's our fault for disrupting the coyote's natural environment. Besides, if the kids weren't raised as fascist animal-haters, I'm sure they could have coaxed the animal down.

So you think this is going to open the eyes of those sort of people who protest the competetive coyote hunts?

Dixie_Amazon · May 23, 2007

The coyotes like the easy pickings in urban settings.

CajunBass · May 23, 2007

I've never seen a coyote until a few months ago. Since then, I've been seeing more and more. Just a few days ago, my wife spotted one right here at the house while she was walking the dogs.

Joe Demko · May 23, 2007

Where do guns fit into this? You live in Nevada where there are coyotes. Ever gone out and shot at some? They don't exactly make themselves an easy target. Moreover, this happened in what is basically a suburb of NYC. You really think Middletown NJ is going to legalize varmint hunting in the city limits?
No, wait! I get it now! The problem was that the 5-year old was out in the yard without his sidearm! His parents are probably tree-hugging gun-banning crunchygranola cryptofascist COMMIES!
Maybe instead of just posting an article so we can all indulge in a little recreational outrage, you could clarify what your point is and offer some solutions to the problem as you identify it.

Old Fuff · May 23, 2007

I hate to agree with Joe... :neener:

But he's right... :what:

I live in a VERY small town in Arizona, and we have plenty of 'yotes around, as they come in looking for small pets that make excellent dinners from the critter's point of view. If I tried to plug one the police would be at my door in short order, because my neighbors would light up their telephone lines.

In this situation the best solution in both NJ and AZ is traps, not guns. :scrutiny:

arjppj · May 23, 2007

I shot two of them with my sidearm while just walking around some family land...my grandpa kept losing chickens, now he doesn't. Nobody hunts them where i live and hunt and i think they breed faster than rabbits.

JBadgley · May 23, 2007

Just a suggestion

...

but what if you use an bb gun or an air soft gun
(provided those are not banned)
but if all else fails a painball gun with marbles will do the trick :evil:

romma · May 23, 2007

Had two cats within a couple of months get eaten. We have several coyotes on and around our property. A couple of months ago one came right up to the house, and by the time I grabbed my gun, it was at the edge of the woods invisible. My Girlfriend was keeping an eye on it so she knew exactly where it was.

Scary thing is, I was probably 40 feet or so from it. Never saw it even walk away.

TallPine · May 23, 2007

My guess is that all these coyotes are coming across the border from Mexico

Jkwas · May 23, 2007

A few years back my mom had problems with a pack of wild dogs in NJ that were attacking dogs, cats, etc. They wandered into my moms yard, the police came and shot them.

strat81 · May 23, 2007

You really think Middletown NJ is going to legalize varmint hunting in the city limits?

Legalized hunting or not, if a wild animal attempts to take a bite out of my children, wife, or me I will attempt to shoot it without being reckless with a firearm.

Joe Demko · May 23, 2007

Legalized hunting or not, if a wild animal attempts to take a bite out of my children, wife, or me I will attempt to shoot it without being reckless with a firearm.

Wow, that makes you so...exactly the same as everybody else on this board. The issue isn't shooting a particular coyote in the act of biting a child. The issue is controlling coyote populations in a suburban area.

never_retreat · May 23, 2007

Trapping is a solution in a highly populated tree hugging area. But after trapped they need to be killed not released. There are way two many of these things running around that have lost all fear of humans. Time to die for those that oppose. I've killed 1 yote on my property this year and I know there is another, but I just haven’t seen it yet. On the other hand I also have a mother and cub bear that hove no fear of anyone in the neighborhood. I just haven’t had a chance to shoot them yet either. I'm thinking I might study up on trapping. :evil:

Anyone have any ideas for a bear snare??

Now if we can only train these yotes to eat are useless politicians.
By the way I'm north west NJ (I can see america from my back yard)

Big Calhoun · May 23, 2007

IMO, one of the problems is the laws regarding discharge of firearms. I believe while you cannot discharge a firearm within the city limits of a incorporated area in Texas, there is an exception made for things like self-defense and that includes being attack by an animal. New Jersey makes no such provisions. If you discharge that firearm, you're more than likely taking a ride no matter how justified you were.

MD_Willington · May 23, 2007

Mild winter in our area, so we too have a lot of coyotes.

Caught one on my front porch trying to get into the garbage, but I could not do anything other than open the kitchen window and yell at the bugger.

They must be eating well, this one was a bit bigger than the usual ones I've seen.

cassandrasdaddy · May 23, 2007

\cajun bass i live cross the river in stafford and been feeding em my chickens not by choice my lab husky has killed 3 couple others committed suicide. where can i nget a trap big enoh for em. i can drown em then quietly. though my liberal neighbors saw their kitty killed by one and are cool with the yote suicides now

obxned · May 23, 2007

In places where coyotes get shot at, they act a whole lot differently than where they feel free to do what they please.

DogBonz · May 23, 2007

Yeah, but..

The issue is controlling coyote populations in a suburban area.

If we implement "Coyote Control" then only criminals will have coyotes.

Seriously though, I say that we just leave some roller skates and a few big skyrockets laying around and the coyotes will kill them selves off.

Limeyfellow · May 23, 2007

Coyotes took down an old man here in North Carolina and been attacking peoples dogs for a while now. Doesn't help we are knocking down woods left, right and center and developing the whole area up so they had a mild weather so alot more have survived, with less hunting grounds and seeing what looks like an easy prey they never seen before they will go after it. Probrobly young coyotes too about one or two years old who don't know better.

LaEscopeta · May 23, 2007

A few years back my mom had problems with a pack of wild dogs in NJ that were attacking dogs, cats, etc.

I STILL say this attack and the one 2 months ago were by dogs and not a coyote. I say there are a lot more dogs than coyotes in Middletown NJ, both feral and unrestrained pets, and dogs are way more likely to attack kids then coyotes. In the absence of evidence otherwise, I’m more going to believe people in NJ, be they kids, police, animal control officers or newspaper reporters are more likely to misidentify a dog as a coyote than a coyote attacking a person unprovoked. (I’m not saying coyotes don’t ever go after people, I’m just saying it is rare. A lot rarer than dogs attacking people.)

qlajlu · May 23, 2007

never_retreat said:
I can see america [sic] from my back yard

never_retreat, is that Free America, or another People's Republic in America?

DogBonz said:
I say that we just leave some roller skates and a few big skyrockets laying around and the coyotes will kill them selves off.

DogBonz, that would only work if we imported Road Runners for them to chase.

One thing is for sure, poisoning is OUT! In an urban area that would compound the problem of lost pets.

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