Who packs heat after they've had a few?

Who the hell says

Packs heat

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My bad on the drinks I need to stop watching mythbusters. Cosmoline I looked at the chart its 3to4. Either way I choose not to take the chance.

I prefer to exercise self-control and responsibility.

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"At the very least, they should have put the brand of a hot iron on Hester Prynne's forehead. Madam Hester would have winced at that, I warrant me. But she, the naughty baggage, little will she care what they put upon the bodice of her gown! Why, look you, she may cover it with a brooch, or such like heathenish adornment, and so walk the streets as brave as ever!"

I don't drink so much that I stumble or have reduced judgment. Though I do both if I'm awoken at 3 AM, so I suppose I should avoid sleep.

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What I was thinking. Most of us, awoken by a "bump" at 3AM, are more "impaired" than a drink or three would make us.

If you're not comfortable being around people who may be in possession of firearms while imbibing, don't be around them

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If you're not comfortable being around people who may be driving while imbibing, stay off the road.

I don't drink these days, so no. Never liked the taste of alcohol in anything, beer, wine, whatever, and half my family had serious problems with alcohol.

For those that drink responsibly and carry, my opinion is that that is fine.

That said, I have met more than one person in my life who was convinced that their drinking was perfectly responsible as they stumbled and slurred-including myself in retrospect

Be honest and know yourself if you choose to drink and carry.

I'm still drinking double (triple?) for all of you that don't (which apparently is a lot of drinking).

Down the hatch, Jim Bean keeps me loaded while my 1911 stays loaded.

Biker, know thy self? You got to get so sloshed your forget yourself.

I love these threads.

I don't carry while drinking.

I "pack heat" before I head out. And I drink and carry at the same time. Since I usually have to drive myself around Austin, I never drink to the point that I can't legally drive. So maybe a drink or two over a couple hours.

Alcohol is not illegal nor is it a sin, so I make no bones about enjoying it and I will continue to enjoy it, just like I enjoy my firearms... responsibly.

As I state every time these threads come up: Why is it that the Europeans have no problem with alcohol and guns mixing at the range, but somehow, over here, if we mix so much as ONE beer with dinner and are carrying, we're all of a sudden irresponsible and hellbound?

Hell, I've seen a Feurshutzen in Switzerland that had a bar right next to the 300m rifle line. And those guys shoot assault rifles. As far as I can tell, that place was a drinkin' and shootin' range since 1466, the first guns they shot there were matchlocks, and they haven't had a single accident.

Originally posted by SuperNaut:
"At the very least, they should have put the brand of a hot iron on Hester Prynne's forehead. Madam Hester would have winced at that, I warrant me. But she, the naughty baggage, little will she care what they put upon the bodice of her gown! Why, look you, she may cover it with a brooch, or such like heathenish adornment, and so walk the streets as brave as ever!"

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wow. ..... A quote from "The Scarlet Letter".

Unable to speak for yourself?

Or is it that you are at a loss for an original thought?

At my CHL renewal class a couple of weeks ago our instructor had a PowerPoint slide with Penal Code 46.035 section d displayed. On the slide in big red letters there were the word "No Legal Limit". He explained that this meant zero tolerance for alcohol when carrying, that you would not be given a blood test and that you would in all probability be arrested. He was pretty fierce about it so nobody really tried to push it with him.

The DPS website shows 9 convictions for Unlawful Carry by CHL Holder for 2003, 12 for 2004, and 14 for 2005. Since there are other unlawful carry by license holder offenses, I'd say this probably represents a more or less low conviction rate for any violation of unlawful carry seeing as how as of 2005 we had about 250,000 CHL holders in Texas.

I will take my chances, as I don't really go out that much, and when I do I might have a couple glasses of wine or a couple of drafts or rarely one mixed drink (not all at once). I'm with the folks here who believe that a few Shiners doesn't take away my right to self defense, and it sure doesn't take away the need.

I don't really drink much and if I do, I'll do it at the house. so I guess my vote is no...

The only time I carry after consuming any alcohol is around the house or at my friend's pizzeria when I happen to be working there to help out.

Though I don't allow myself to become drunk in any way shape or form while I am carrying. To that end, I keep a pistol case and lock in the trunk of my car to lock up the pistol if I decide to do any kind of heavy drinking, pursuant with MI laws.

If I only had one okay but after that no way Hose A.

I always carry where it is legal to do so. I will still carry if I have had say one beer. Anymore than that and I don't carry.

Being a good law-abiding, free thinking and well educated citizen of the USA, I don't believe (as a matter of fact I am damn sure of this) that anyone has complete control of thierself or their thought processes after they have had a few. The whole idea behind having a few is to loosen up and not think straight for awhile. To relax, so to speak. The whole idea behind being pro-gun is to be a safe, law-abiding and responsible person when using firearms. That is not possible after you have had a few.

You might just shoot someone that you had no business shooting and in fact really did not want to shoot because your decision making process has been altered by the few you had. That could cost an innocent person their life and you a lifetime in the pokey drinking "raisin jack" when you want a few.

Taking the chance is not worth it to me. When I'm going out to have a few, I usually go with several friends. One of those friends is always the designated driver and also beings he or she is not having any, much less a few, he or she is also the designated carrier and protector of the rest of us for the night.

Guns and mind altering substances do not mix. Don't believe me? Ask some of the millions of people in jail doing life or sitting on death row whether they were sober when they commited their crime.

Molon Labe,
Joe

Not a drinker, so no.

Brats, mmm Who here carries while eating wurst of any kind?

Taking the chance is not worth it to me. When I'm going out to have a few, I usually go with several friends.

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Again, your definition of "having a few" is radically different from my own. I literally mean having a few drinks while smoking my pipe and contemplating the nature of time and space, you mean going partying with people at a bar.

I don't have a permit so I don't carry outside of my home/property at the moment.

However, I will have a beer or two and still carry/have it near by.

I drink lightly, and don't allow myself to get intoxicated, in the past two years I've been "tipsy" one time and guns were no where in sight.

I think the distinction is setting and knowing your limits. If you know you get tipsy with one or two beers, it's a bad idea. If you know one or two drinks wont leave you impaired then by all means carry away. The other distinction comes from why are you drinking? Having a glass of wine with dinner and saying no to carry when you know you wont be impaired is IMO silly, but a personal choice that's fine. The other end that has a drink responsibly is a personal choice as well.

Rarely drink, never when carrying.
The problem is proving your judgment is sound when alcohol is involved. The "legal difficulties" some posters describe is the difference between murder and self defense. The difference between life in prison vs. going home that day. I don't consider it worth the risk. The legal system is already poised to jump on anyone using a firearm for self defense, why make it easier for them?

Who packs heat after a few?

That's almost got a pejorative tone to it.

I hope nobody packs heat after a few... If so, they are a danger to us all, in more ways than one.

John

And if a citizen pulls your fat out of the fire with a ccw after having a couple of brews, would you feel the same, John?

Biker

Well here I sit, feet propped up after a 12-hour day at work. The doors are locked, I'm the only one in the house and I'm sipping a beer.

Wait a minute while I go lock up my pocket knife. Wouldn't want to hurt anybody.

Okay, I'm back.

But wait a minute. Suppose I want to walk out on the porch and smoke a cigarette. It is downtown Richmond after all and I might need my knife. Oh, but I've had most of a beer.

I just don't know what to do.

It wasn't all that long ago that drinking and driving was legal in Virginia and elsewhere. Really, you just had to be in control and under the limit. Still might be in 2 or 3 states. It was the last time I looked.

But now it's okay to talk on a cell phone and drive like a fool in most states.

"America where are you now? Don't you care about your sons and daughters?" - Steppenwolf

Time for a refill.

John

You know, even google doesn't turn up anything gun related on the first page using packs heat. It's either way too out of date or just too juvenile a term.

JT

You know, even google doesn't turn up anything gun related on the first page using packs heat. It's either way too out of date or just too juvenile a term.

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You might be on to something.

Having a few gives no immunity form the BGs. Nor does it negate your right to 'life, liberty, and the persuit of happiness'.