Who packs heat after they've had a few?

Who packs heat after they've had a few?

  • I do.

    Votes: 54 12.7%

  • Sometimes I do.

    Votes: 83 19.5%

  • I never do that.

    Votes: 288 67.8%
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So when I drink, I don't operate heavy machinery or power tools, I don't drive, I don't operate firearms--the most dangerous thing I allow myself to pick up is an Xbox controller or a Taco Bell Value Meal.
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Kinda hard to pick up that value meal without driving after you've been drinking, eh? ;)

As for me, I hardly ever drink outside my home anymore. Occasionally, I'll have a beer or two, but never more than that. I can still drive, carry a firearm, etc just fine. And, being in a bar or restaurant "alcohol" area isn't illegal in my state and there's nothing in the laws about drinking and carrying so I just use common sense when out.

At home is a different story. I like to get schnockered from time to time and there's ALWAYS at least something in my pocket, usually my Kahr PM9, and a long gun within quick reach. Drunk or not, I just treat my firearm like I always do. It doesn't come out, I don't play with it and the only time it comes out of my pocket (in a proper holster) is at night when changing for bed.
 
As long as you were in your own home, you could be as drunk as a skunk, and if it's a good shoot, nothing will happen to you.
 
I don't know about that. Many states have limits when carrying and they don't differentiate between being out and about or at home. I think "drunk as a skunk" would be well above that limit. If I were drunk and had ANY kind of a shooting in a state like that, I'd ditch the holster as fast as I could and claim I wasn't actually carrying at the time. At the time of the shooting, I still wasn't carrying as I was USING the gun. Lying? Sure, but sometimes you have to look out for #1 and CYA.

Even though I drink and carry at home, I think it will make the criminal/civil case MUCH harder on the shooter. Thankfully, CT doesn't have a "carry BAC limit" so I shouldn't have to worry about the scenario above. But, in this liberal 'effed up state, I'd most likely lose my permit and have all my guns confiscated. :fire:
 
Several people have laughed, smirked, giggled, made comments about playing with their pocket knives while drunk, etc. All well and good.

If you live in Florida, you might want to be aware of a little law called 790.157 which gives you the legal limit for alcohol when using a firearm. It says that a blood alcohol level of 0.05% when taken with other evidence is enough to place you under arrest for using a firearm while impaired. A blood alcohol level of 0.10% gets you arrested all by itself. Use a gun while above 0.10% and you are busted for using a firearm while drunk, good self defense shooting or plinking in your back yard, doesn't matter.

Go ahead. Joke. Drink. Carry. Shoot.


http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?mode=View%20Statutes&SubMenu=1&App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=firearms+AND+alcohol+AND+blood&URL=CH0790/Sec157.HTM
 
Use a gun while above 0.10% and you are busted for being drunk, good self defense shooting or not.
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And what is the outcome of the potential "clean shoot that would have been" when you didn't have a gun? You didn't face a jury but did you live to enjoy that?
 
And what is the outcome of the potential "clean shoot that would have been" when you didn't have a gun? You didn't face a jury but did you live to enjoy that?
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Not my problem. I drink in bars. I cannot carry in bars. I only drink to get drunk (ie to party). No guns while doing so. The other 99.9% of the time, I don't drink at all.
 
I won't refuse to drink while carrying, but I don't usually drink a lot either.

Those of you who refuse to drink while carrying, do you also remove your car keys from your pocket before you drink?
 
do you also remove your car keys from your pocket before you drink?
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If I know I'm going to be drinking, I generally don't even take my car. :)

I did used to do things like drive drunk. After having a heart-to-heart talk with a Honolulu police officer at about 0430 one morning (bars in Hawaii closed at 4AM) while heading back to Pearl Harbor Naval Base, I changed my mind about that. He cut me some slack and I never drank and drove again.
 
Can't say that I've never spent an evening at a campfire drinking something with a rifle propped up against the chair or a .44 on my waist.

We had a deer lease in Brewster county Texas for many years, not a place I ever liked to be totally disarmed :)


That said, I never thought it would be a good idea to actually get the gun out and play with it, that's just stupid.

Driving the jeep around the place plastered was probably much more dangerous than having the gun on me.
All well inside the fence line of private property by the way ;)
 
All this talk about BAC numbers and your state of drunkenness meaning something to the legal system. I just have to say that regardless of my state of intoxication (stone sober to blasted) I won't be blowing into any breathalyser for a cop unless I'm operating a motor vehicle in public.

Why incriminate yourself?

Furthermore, the BAC numbers are arbitrary compared to your state of drunkenness or how impaired you are. The limit has been repeatedly lower from what the medical world dictated (back in the 80's it was .1 to .15 BAC) as impaired via the neo-prohibitionists lobbyists known as MADD in an effort to discourage the consumption of any booze.

Blowing a .09 doesn't mean your actually impaired. It just means you're no longer legal to operate a motor vehicle.
 
I just have to say that regardless of my state of intoxication (stone sober to blasted) I won't be blowing into any breathalyser for a cop unless I'm operating a motor vehicle.
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Um, if you're in a state that makes it illegal to carry/use a firearm above a certain BAC limit and the officers smell alcohol on you, you're as much obligated to submit to a test as if you were operating a motor vehicle. BOTH actions are illegal at that point if you're over the limit. Especially in the case of a shooting. They be all over your ass MUCH more than a simple DUI stop.
 
All this talk about BAC numbers and your state of drunkenness meaning something to the legal system. I just have to say that regardless of my state of intoxication (stone sober to blasted) I won't be blowing into any breathalyser for a cop unless I'm operating a motor vehicle in public.
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I like these types of comments.

790.155 Blood test for impairment or intoxication in cases of death or serious bodily injury; right to use reasonable force.--

(1)(a) Notwithstanding any recognized ability to refuse to submit to the tests provided in s. 790.153, if a law enforcement officer has probable cause to believe that a firearm used by a person under the influence of alcoholic beverages or controlled substances has caused the death or serious bodily injury of a human being, such person shall submit, upon the request of a law enforcement officer, to a test of his or her blood for the purpose of determining the alcoholic content thereof or the presence of controlled substances therein. The law enforcement officer may use reasonable force if necessary to require such person to submit to the administration of the blood test. The blood test shall be performed in a reasonable manner.
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http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=firearms%20AND%20alcohol%20AND%20blood&URL=Ch0790/Sec155.HTM


Blowing a .09 doesn't mean your actually impaired. It just means you're no longer legal to operate a motor vehicle.
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Blowing .09 while using a firearm in Florida can get you a trial to let a jury determine if you were impaired. All it takes is for the LEO to think you are impaired and arrest you. You get to convince the jury.
 
Great info if you live in Florida. Happily, there are a bunch of other states in the union.

The officer sure can think whatever he wants and can charge me with whatever he feels like, but I'm sure not going to help him make his case.

I'd rather be charged and found guilty separately of an obscure class 2 misdemeanor of refusing to take a breath test, than be found guilty of manslaughter (or whatever else) because I had to defend myself with some booze in me.
 
Those of you who refuse to drink while carrying, do you also remove your car keys from your pocket before you drink?
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Umm, don't you mean do I remove my car from my pocket?

If you live in Florida, you might want to be aware of a little law called 790.157 which gives you the legal limit for alcohol when using a firearm. It says that a blood alcohol level of 0.05% when taken with other evidence is enough to place you under arrest for using a firearm while impaired. A blood alcohol level of 0.10% gets you arrested all by itself. Use a gun while above 0.10% and you are busted for using a firearm while drunk, good self defense shooting or plinking in your back yard, doesn't matter.
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El T, if you are reading this can you tell me the laws for us Hoosiers?

That'd be some $*** if I was minding my own business, drinking from the comfort of my own home, some POS breaks in with a weapon,I protect my family and I go to prison.:eek:
 
Let's be reasonable here. How many justifiable shootings can we mention that have been tainted because the good guy was a little tipsy? I know of about zero. It is just something to be aware about. The odds are you will never use your gun in self defense. It is even more remote that it will happen after you had a drink or two. Just don't take your gun down to the local watering hole and drink/shoot pool for six hours and get in a fight in the parking lot on the way out. Common sense.
 
You guys are way off, those laws don't apply when you are in your own home. You don't even need a license to carry. You can walk around naked with 3 shoulder holsters on and a speedo. If someone breaks in and attempts to kill you and you defend yourself, it's self defense period. The law cannot dictate "yet" what you drink in your house, It's for arguments sake, I don't even have beer in my home, but this conversation is nonsense, there is no impairment issue when you are home, a mans home is his castle, and we all know what that Castle doctrine covers. Now if you shoot someone and there is a judgement question involved, you may have a court case, but don't count on it. This is the South, and booze and guns have been accomodating each other a long time. Besides if you were 3 sheets to the wind what exactlly are you supposed to do if someone breaks in to invade your home, and tries to shoot you, invite them for a cocktail?
 
Blowing a .09 doesn't mean your actually impaired. It just means you're no longer legal to operate a motor vehicle.
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If you believe this statement to be true try typing "progressive effects of alcohol" into Google and see what comes up. The science behind choosing a BAC of .08 for things like DUI or BUI is pretty darn sound.
 
If I go out and know I'm going to have a few, the gun stays home.

I also don't drink and drive.

If I'm home and having a few pops, I have yet to find a time when I thought it was a good idea to pull out a gun and play around with it.....
 
How many justifiable shootings can we mention that have been tainted because the good guy was a little tipsy?
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Even if there were alot, the good guy still avoided taking a dirt nap.
Use a gun while above 0.10% and you are busted for being drunk, good self defense shooting or not.
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No one's saying it's a good idea to get totally plastered while carrying in public(legal limit for driving is 0.08%), I'm talking about a few drinks over an hour or two where your BAC maybe hits 0.04%.
 
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