a terminology question (What's a BBQ Gun?)

here a link for factory engraved cimaron firearms. they are colt saa copies and are well executed copies to boot. one in 38, 44 spcl or 45colt would be quite useable on a daily basis.
http://www.cimarron-firearms.com/CustomShop/LaserEng.htm#

Sistemas make good BBQ guns.

INGREDIENTS:
1/2 cup tomato paste
1/3 cup red wine, preferably dry
1 tablespoon olive oil
1 tablespoon soy sauce
1 tablespoon brown sugar
1 tablespoon apple cider vinegar
1 teaspoon Worcestershire sauce
1 teaspoon garlic powder
1/4 teaspoon cumin
1/4 teaspoon chipotle chile powder
PREPARATION:
In a medium saucepan, add olive oil, garlic, chipotle powder, and cumin. Allow to heat through, while stirring, for 1 minute. Add red wine and brown sugar. Simmer for 2-3 minutes. Add in soy sauce, vinegar, tomato paste, and Worcestershire sauce. Simmer for 2 minutes more. Remove from heat, allow to cool slightly before brushing on gun.

I think I've also heard the term "sunday gun" used in the place of barbecue gun.

This is all news to me. Not only are my handguns unworthy Texas barbeque attire, so's everything else i have to wear. My P-38 could use some 'pimping', though.

The most traditional "BBQ Guns" are SAAs and 1911s, but those aren't your only options. Pretty much any high-quality American-made (or designed) gun will do, especially larger-framed Colts and S&Ws, so long as it's been gussied up a bit with engraving (preferably on the metal and leather holster, but you could get by with nicely carved grips). Anyone who tells you that a Hi-Power is unsuitable should be disregarded.

As nice or interesting as something like a Mateba Auto-Revolver or a Desert Eagle might be, they're foreign and shouldn't properly be used as BBQ Guns.

Some will differ with me, but my personal opinion is that if you're strapped for cash then even something like a Taurus revolver which has been properly shined and is displayed in a classic and traditional manner is suitable (although obviously you want to move on up eventually).

If it has plastic on it, it's almost certainly unsuitable for this use (if nothing else, because it's probably a foreign gun). Again, though, if you're in a situation where you need a BBQ Gun, it's better to have a Glock or Sigma than nothing at all.

This is my barbeque gun, a CZ 75 30th Ann. model:

As a Loyal Limey could one be excused for calling an enfield revolver or webley RIC Webley Mark VI IN .455 or other service calibre?

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I don't think the Enfield revolver would quite make the grade, but either of the Webleys would have enough class. Particularly a factory nickel finish. Although those would be better choices for a "Queen's Tea" than BBQ ;-)

Back in post #2 esheato provided a link to Lawdog's explanation of court guns and BBQ guns. It is worth a read or a reread if you have forgotten what the man posted on the matter.

Probably THEE definition of BBQ guns.

recomendations for a bbq gun for when I emigrate?
I wish to avoid a faux pass like a glock at a formal event.

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Glocks aren't good BBQ guns huh........

Gold Plated Engraved G-35

Another nod to the definition of BBQ gun as inlcuding engraving, inlays, or at the least custom grips with polishing and finishing. Note: Custom grips in and of themselves don't make a BBQ gun in my mind.

Glocks aren't good BBQ guns huh........

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Don't get me wrong: that's a beautifully done Glock; however, part of being a BBQ Gun is that it must be American (and for this, the BHP counts). Obviously if you're an immigrant or visitor from Germany you might be able to get away with a German gun, but then you've also got the polymer clause to worry about. Again, while well done, that Glock is 1) foreign and 2) polymer, meaning that it can't be a proper BBQ Gun, yet is too big to be an Opera Gun.

There's a niche for it, but I don't think it's one of those. I think it's leaning toward the "Pimp Gun" category, although it may be slightly too tasteful for that. Maybe a gold trigger and some embedded stones would push it over the edge.

The term I've always used is 'hip jewelry' - shiny stuff that is often carried but never fired.

There are two additional grade levels:
1 - Pachanga guns: Hispanic hip jewelry. Often found with solid gold snake-and-eagle grips.

2 - Pimped guns: Much like the above, but gold-plated with cubic zirconium decorations. Usually unsafe to fire.

For a British twist on an Amercan theme, howabout the Armalon Adder? That's a British twist on an American theme. Have it engraved and some prettier grips...

California approved BBQ gun .

Here's a true BBQ gun...

Friend of mine was a Texas Ranger for years, he had two- A 1911 chromed out with ivory grips, which he wore to BBQs and to court; the other was a Colt snubbie that was his Sunday gun. BBQ guns are real, and have been around since the early days of nickel chrome and engraving. If you ever get the chance, NRA museum has some beautiful examples.

How about a S&W Hand Ejector in .455 Webley? I can put you in touch with a dealer who has one... already shortened and nickeled, with (IIRC) ivory stocks. Along with a few dozen other BBQ guns.

And this in NC, no less.

lpl/nc

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As a Loyal Limey could one be excused for calling an enfield revolver or webley RIC Webley Mark VI IN .455 or other service calibre?

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I'd go further than that; I suggest that you'd be applauded. It's perfectly all right to let your personal style include reference to your origin. My only hesitation would be my reluctance to add new engraving to such a piece.

Lee's idea looks awfully good, too.

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I would like a British pistol if that is appropriate for an immigrant.

And would it be tasteful to have a crusader's shield/English flag on the leather?

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Sure. A carved Cross of St. George would be better than a stamped one, and I recommend lots of what one might call "filigree and flourishes" in the design, as well. Make it fancy.

An additional thought: how about a carved depiction on the holster of St. George slaying the dragon?

Recently I was explaining to my wife that I needed a "Dress 1911" for formal occassions.

She rolls her eyes a lot when I talk.



-- John

Old NFO's posting reflects a BBQ gun and a BBQ rig. The more your gear looks like his, the more likely you're ready for the BBQ.

And BBQ guns don't have to be American.

Old NFO- Here's that same gun after the stocks were reworked a bit.