Ruger LCR Recall Poll

Flame outs? So, you're a Ruger hater? Smith and Wesson guy, hole and all? Or, is it just a no safety hole guy?

The LCP is in short supply. Ruger can't keep up with demand. I want one myself, but I'm hoping for supply to catch up so I won't have to pay out the nose, though I might go with a P3AT if I get fed up with the wait. But, so how is the LCP a "flame out"? Seems quite successful to me. If you sent one in for the recall, someone tolled me you get a free had and a couple of spare magazines for your trouble, or something like that. Hell, don't sound like that bad a deal! I've got 7 Rugers. One was subject to a recall (P85), but I never sent it in. I just decock it in a safe direction interposing my thumb to let the hammer fall lightly, which is sorta the way to do it in the first place. I mean, if you point your gun at your head when you decock, that's your business, I guess. You won't be around to sue Ruger for it, anyway. That P85 is a good gun despite the recall.

Ruger has DA revolvers pretty well figured out in regards to timing, transfer bars, cylinder catches, lock-up, and other issues. I am betting on no recall.

New pistol designs are always tricky. Drop safety, timing for feed, extraction and ejection while holding in a mag under recoil forces. Just introducing a new material into a fairly simple mechanical design is not hard by comparison.

And I would not describe the SR9 and LCP as "flameouts" as they still sell every one that they make.

Just sounds a little trolly, that's all. To assume that a Ruger will get recalled just because they've had a couple? At least they don't ignore a POSSIBLE problem. Heck, when they can put a LCP on a gun store shelf around here some where long enough for me to stumble in and find it, I'll buy one. I ain't in a real hurry for it, anyway, don't have the discretionary income at the moment.

I'm just danged glad to see Ruger developing decent carries and marketing to the CCW market. Bout time. SP101s are great, but I can almost carry an N frame as easily.

JN, Ruger will give there Uncompensated Beta Testors a little time with it. Ruger don't mind, they will have there money. Lets just hope that no Beta Testor gets hurt with it. I can hear them now, " It's built like a tank". Less than 6 months you will see a recall, unless some Uncompensated Ruger Beta Testor gets hurt first. orchidhunter

I love ruger but at the same time it seems alot of guns have been getting recalled lately (not just with ruger) and it wouldn't suprise me very much if this one was too.

Okay, I got it now. Mine's a "won't get recalled" vote, but if I'm wrong, I won't lose sleep over it. If I needed the gun, I'd wait for a while, anyway. Even if it's good right out of the box, a likelihood, it'll be in short supply and the price is sort of high for what it is. Of course, I don't know what the actual price with be, but 500 is a little steep, I think. I have a perfectly good little Taurus 85UL that fills that niche that I'm happy with. I want that LCP. LOL!

Let's see here.

First the LCP was an unworthy offering because it was an absolute direct copy of the KelTec. Identical gun and those thieves at Ruger stole the design.

Ruger recalls the LCP because a teeny tiny fraction (was it 3 guns?) failed a drop test. They re-engineer, recall the gun, fix it, give you a free magazine and a hat with pretty quick turn around.

Because of the recall of the LCP.....which is supposedly identical to the never recalled KelTec..... all new Rugers will likely get recalled and any fool that buys a Ruger is an unpaid Beta tester?

Ooooooooooh Kay.

Then tell me... what do you call KelTec owners that are carrying around a pistol with the same drop fault as the Ruger LCP? (It's a copy, remember?)

Are they unknowing unpaid KelTec Beta testers?

the never recalled KelTec

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I get what you're saying, but that really is funny since P3ATs were "recalled" voluntarily, one at a time by owners who sent them in to get them in working order and then heaped glowing praise on Kel-Tec's customer service. Ruger gets heat for being pro-active. It's funny. And, no, I have nothing against the Kel-Tec. Even owned one. I do plan on picking up an LCR down the road. Prefer small revolvers over small autos.

I'm gonna say within 3 months because this is supposedly a whole new design and all. With the LCP the copied an already succesful design and managed to screw that up, theres no telling what might go wrong when they have to actually design a gun all by themselves.

Handled a LCR today

This Ruger bashing for the recalls is getting out of hand. I'm a Smith fan but I have a SR9 that I love. A week ago I was at the range and shot my friends Sig and Kimber. I'll keep the SR9. Just felt better to me. Anyway, back to the LCR. I was lucky enough to attend the Shot Show today. I had a chance to handle the LCR. It feels great! I actually like the feel better than my 442. Then he told me to check out the trigger. I made sure the cylinder was clear and dry fired it. It almost felt like I needed two fingers to pull it. Then, towards the end of the travel, it lightened up abruptly. I hated it. But, it might be fine for it's intended use. Also keep in mind that I just dry fired it a couple times and it was so different than my J's that I'm just not liking the difference. In any case, I think Ruger has a winner in the LCR. I'm loving the fact that Smith may get some competition for their J's.

Don't think Ruger can design a gun, eh? Who designed the Mk 1, the Blackhawk, the Security Six, the Redhawk, the GP100, the SP101, the P85, the P90, the P94, the P95, the P97, the P345, the 10/22, the mini 14, the M77, the -ah, you get the picture. Well, who designed all those guns, eh? Tell me cause I wanna know if it wasn't Ruger. I've looked at the LCP and theP3AT side by side and there are a few differences. I haven't checked out the trigger design, though.

This question is stupid. Stupid and nothing else.

Let's not forget about all the guns Smith and Wesson has had to recall over the years....:banghead:


Personally, I think the LCR looks like ass, and I don't want one. But I have no doubts it will be rock solid like every other Ruger revolver ever made.

You folks that love them Rugers, need to show your love and get you one for each pocket. orchidhunter

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Then tell me... what do you call KelTec owners that are carrying around a pistol with the same drop fault as the Ruger LCP? (It's a copy, remember?)

Are they unknowing unpaid KelTec Beta testers?

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Not for nothing, but the Kel-Tec Kool-Aid may actually be stronger than the Glock Kool-Aid. Those folks over at KTOG were rabid last I looked at the forum (which was, admittedly several years ago).

My experience with Kel-Tec was completely negative, and I did feel like an unpaid beta tester for the P40 I foolishly purchased soon after they arrived on the scene (I learned my lesson, no more new design guns for me). I gave KT 3 chances to get the P40 right, but they could never make it feed even one magazine without a malfunction. Eventually I had them replace the .40 slide and barrel with a 9x19 slide and barrel. It worked somewhat better, but was still nowhere near reliable enough to use as a carry gun.

I tried the P32 next, and I owned two different ones because I really wanted to like it. Neither worked well enough to be a defensive gun. I'm done with Kel-Tec. I was flamed to no end on KTOG for posting my first hand experiences with Kel-Tec firearms. There is a reason so many people know how "great" KT customer service is; their quality control is awful (and in the case of the P40, the design is faulty as well). My experience with KT service was not great, they never managed to fix any of my problems. The folks on KTOG just accused me of lying or over stating my experiences.

I took the poll about the LCR recall as tongue in cheek, but I voted for three months. I really wouldn't be surprised. Its a new design, and flaws and problems crop up. IMO Ruger is a much higher quality outfit than Kel-Tec, so I'm sure they will get it right eventually, if not right away.

I only own one Ruger at the moment, a SP101, but I have plans for several more (all of them proven designs FWIW). The LCR doesn't interest me for several reasons, not the least of which is that I already have proven Airweight J-frames that fill that role.

What would interest me is a SP101 sized 5-shot .44 Special without any sort of infernal, I mean internal lock. Maybe someday Ruger will come through on that one.

While I didn't get to shoot it, I did get to handle and dry fire it today at the SHOT show. The trigger was almost as good as the 642 at the S&W booth. ime will tell, but it is going to eat greatly in J-frame sales, IMO

There you go. It just may be that I'm accustomed to the J's trigger that made me not like the pull on the LCR. It's just different. Make a dent in the J's sale's? I'd bet on it. Oh yea, I voted no recall.

I'm excited about the LCR myself. It may be a nice improvement over the new J-Frames if people can be objective about it and not just give up on it based on it looking different.

Does it have an internal lock?

MANY new products come with growing pains. Smith & Wesson had them with their M&P line, but now the M&Ps are one of the finest defensive handguns on the market today.

Don't be so quick to knock Ruger. In fact, it has only been the last couple of years that Ruger has finally started to focus more on firearms for personal defense. Just three years ago they produced no striker-fired pistol, no handgun designed for concealed carry, and no rifle with a factory-installed flash suppressor. Now, they do all three, and, they are finally selling their 20-round factory mags for the Mini-14 to the general public. Ruger is actually starting to listen to their customers.

I didn't buy the M&P when it first came out, but now I have two. And I LOVE them. I will probably consider an LCP, but it will be a year or two down the road.

Does it have an internal lock?

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Yes, it does. It is placed unobtrusively under the grip, you have to drill your own hole to use it. It's the same lock they've been using on some of the single actions, and so far, I have not heard of one single complaint about the lock on any of their guns.

Heh, my favorite carry is a P11 Kel Tec with 11K+ rounds downrange so far. Still accurate and reliable. The gun is going on 13 years now.

And, the most bashed brand of all? Yeah, I don't really need the LCR because I have a Taurus M85SSUL that I've had as long as the Kel Tec, but have fired about half the rounds out of. Still, it's accurate, compact, and reliable and fills that niche such that I don't need to spend 500 bucks on a compact revolver.

Look I love Ruger period, but the thread is justified. Ruger has recalled the last two Big rollouts! Cudos to Ruger for at least getting them out to the public, but I think they are rushing to get them out. No one wants to buy a new anything and have to send it back for recall! The Gold label shotgun also had problems, no recall but dang how many years in the catalogue before they figured out it was not feasible. I think the LCR will not be recalled, but it aint the kind of Ruger I'll spend my money on.