Ruger 1911 coming soon??

ill pass, never got over their support of the assualt rifle ban. and ditch a Springfield? i think not!

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i know. that's a really difficult one for me to get over, also :-(

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This is the first I've heard of any gun manufacturer supporting a gun ban, for the statement to be made there has to be a portion of truth to it. That's enough for me, I'll pass on Ruger entirely. Considering the ban covered the mini-14, why are they still in business?

With my luck, they'll start producing a plain jane CCO setup for $600 and I'll have to eat my words.

This is the first I've heard of any gun manufacturer supporting a gun ban, for the statement to be made there has to be a portion of truth to it. That's enough for me, I'll pass on Ruger entirely. Considering the ban covered the mini-14, why are they still in business?

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Rather than making this thread a history lesson or a re-hash of early 90's gun industry politics, why don't we just keep it about a (theoretical?) firearm - a Ruger 1911. That should be interesting enough.

+1 9MM id also like to see a cheaper 10MM 1911

I've been perfectly happy with my Taurus PT1911, still if Ruger had theirs out at the same price point and quality I'd have sprung for it, assuming it was made in the US and all....

I'm a big Ruger fan, got six P series, a couple Redhawks, a couple Blackhawks.

But if they come out with a 1911, getting into the game so late and the chance of them turning out a 1911-like pistol, I'd like to see something differet A'la:

1911 look but not entirely same ergonomis, a tad wider to allow for a double stack magazine in .45 ACP like 12 rounds. The additional width none too great but enough to allow for the 12 rounds.

Keep the additional width so that when other calibers are allowed like 10mm there'll be 14 rounds(allow for after market rig up for .40). 9mm 16 rounds(and allow it so after market parts makers can rig up a way to convert to .38 super). Create Single Action looking trigger but allow for DA/SA with a cock and lock ambi safety, but also allow a decocker to be installed. Have the classic grip safety and allow the sights on the gun to be modified for Novak etc..

Yeah it wouldn't be a '1911' as we know it but it'd be a welcomed addition to the markt. There are many players in the 1911 game, I've got a Taurus PT1911 and it's a fine gun, if Ruger made a 1911, given I've already got their P345(my preferred carry) I don't know how soon I'd rush out to get one.

Sometimes innovation is the name of the game.

so you want Ruger to make a Para Ordinance?

Why on earth would they do this? The 1911 market is crowded. If you want a well made beater get an old Nork, SA milspec or NIB RIA.

If you want a mid priced 1911 get a Colt, Dan Wesson, SA Loaded or professional or S&W.

If you want to spend over $2000 get yourself a Wilson, NightHawk, Les Baer, Ed Brown etc...... from any number of off the shelf semi customs.

If you want to spend heavy coin then you look to go to a full house custom where the sky is the limit.

Can someone explain to me what Ruger is going to bring to the market that is not already here? I don't get it?

Why on earth would they do this? The 1911 market is crowded. If you want a well made beater get an old Nork, SA milspec or NIB RIA.

If you want a mid priced 1911 get a Colt, Dan Wesson, SA Loaded or professional or S&W.

If you want to spend over $2000 get yourself a Wilson, NightHawk, Les Baer, Ed Brown etc...... from any number of off the shelf semi customs.

If you want to spend heavy coin then you look to go to a full house custom where the sky is the limit.

Can someone explain to me what Ruger is going to bring to the market that is not already here? I don't get it?

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Because all their PD people came from Hollywood after the writers strike?
They don't have any new ideas out there either.

Why on earth would they do this? The 1911 market is crowded.

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Same reason SIG, Taurus, S&W did.

Plus, Ruger doesn't have any trouble entering a crowded market with a seemingly contradictory offering. The new 556 is proof.

I kinda think it's silly, but they obviously think there's a market there. I wonder what will be different on this. They have to make it different enough to warrant attention.

I think I was talking about a Ruger 1911 before anyone else. At least, I've never heard anyone, other than myself, mention the idea. If I can dig back through my posts, I'm going to have to see when it was that I first posted the thought of it.

Back before Ruger began selling the SR-556, I was posting the notion of them (and Springfield) getting into the black rifle pool with an AR15 of their own, and looky what happened!! Now... back to the Springfield AR15...

so you want Ruger to make a Para Ordinance?

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That is exactly what I thought when I read it.

I'm not itching for a hi-cap 1911. I have more confidence now in my single-stack 1911 than I used to have in my various hi-caps because I now shoot much better than I used to. I once drooled over the Paras and Kimber BP-tens, etc, now I don't really want one. If I feel that my 1911 and a reload isn't enough, I need a rifle, not a bigger pistol.

The more I think about this, I think it's something Ruger can make work. Quibble all you want over their AWB record, Bill Ruger's comments, their centerfire autos' creepy triggers, etc, but their customer service has ALWAYS been over and above. Send them a gun, no matter how old, even if it wasn't their fault, they will fix it with speed and courtesy. If they build a straight 1911 with no new tricks, no proprietary parts, etc, I think it will probably be great.

I'm 1911'd up pretty well, but it would be interesting to see what they might come up with. I just don't know if they could bring themselves to make a plain vanilla classic 1911 without multiple redundant safetys and paragraphs of helpful hints all over the thing.

However I recently got a .44 special that has NO markings on the barrel whatsoever. I think it is just a factory mistake, though, and not the answer to anyone's prayers.

Doesn't Ruger already cast 1911 frames for other manufacturers? If so, it would seem that making their own would be a logical progression.

in other news.. I hear kel tec is filing suit against Ruger since the lcp recall as they are now TOO similar to the P3at...yup... the only way they could get it to work well was to steal yet another kel tec design....
but rumors can be rumors...

does that mean they'll be collectible in 20 years?

FN clone in 9mm? It would be a good bear gun. By pummeling the bear with it!

the .45 1911 was the first pistol I ever shot and that was when I was an M.P. after I got out and got hired by our local sheriff's department I carred a ruger security six, when they made me a narc I got a combat commander to carried but didn't get use to carrying it cock and locked without a holster due to many time I felt better to ditch the weapon when buying drugs in case I got patted down so I didn't use a holster went to a snub nose and still have a love relationship with those. Now that I'm getting ready to pull the pin I would like to get a 1911, you go back to where one began type of feeling, if Ruger came out with a good one at a resonable price I would be intrested in it the warning lable on rugers have never bother me any and don't reallly understand why people don't like that.

I'd take one in 45acp and one in 10mm both full size. And another in an ultra carry size would be nice as well. And if the wife reads this we need one in 40s&w for her.

If Ruger does build one, it'll probably be one they can sell in CA. Not only does that mean a firing pin block or Ti small pin, but an easily discernible loaded chamber indicator and a magazine disconnect. No thanks.

I'm just wondering how Ruger will be able to screw up a 1911 trigger to the same degree as every other semi-auto trigger in their lineup.

Think I"m crazy? Go test an SR9 or LCPs trigger. Grittiest and longest triggers I've ever felt, respectively, regardless of platform.

All I can see is if they make an almost SA-type quality item, at RIA prices, and I don't see that as happening without some sacrifice in some other area of the 1911 that makes it a platform worth buying.

To each their own.

If it's faithful to JB's design, I will give it a shot.

I'm one of the ones who doesn't really understand the dislike for Rugers. In general they make great guns for cheap prices? Sure they aren't Hi Point cheap but the are cheaper than a lot of other brands out there while the quality is generally just as good or better. Their customer service is also great.

Sure they have recalls but so does every manufacturer. They seem to promptly take care of them and are known to even give you a free magazine for your trouble. Is that a huge deal? Not to me?

Sure the warning labels also are an annoyance and if I was buying a gun to put on a display a Ruger probably wouldn't be it but for a work horse gun who cares if it has a little extra writing on it. Not like your being forced to read it daily. I'd rather have a little extra writing on it and know I got a great gun from a great company at a great price.

As for triggers I think that's a personal preference. I've shot the SR9 and I can honestly say I really like how the trigger feels. I've read how some don't and how others love it. I don't know that it's the best trigger ever but I didn't think it was half bad. They can't make a trigger that will keep all customers happy as everyone likes something different. I've got a buddy that loves triggers that you can just barely and I mean barely touch and they go off. Others wont shoot his guns because of this. However, he doesn't like triggers any heavier than that. You just can't make something that keeps everyone happy.

i like rugers, and i like 1911s. if they can make one at the price point of a taurus that is improved in quality, i would definitely consider it. honestly, it'll hinge for me on how much crap they put on the slide. the warning is a little annoying, but i can probably live with it depending on just how big it is. forward serrations bug the crap out of me. so do excessively large logos and such. make a clean, basic 1911 along the lines of a springfield mil-spec, and i'll definitely be interested.

ill pass, never got over their support of the assualt rifle ban

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Bill Ruger didn't support the AWB, he wrote it!

The mini of course, didn't have the evil features Bill told the Democrats to ban.

Bill stopped selling hi-caps to all but LEOs and saved his precious mini.... by selling us all out.

After all, no honest man needs a magazine with more than 10 rounds.....

How quickly they forget...