Looking for a new fullsize steel pistol

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In my experience it does not suffer nearly the amount that the DA/SA does. Have you ever shot the SA only model?
 
rellascout said:
Yup i have... You are correct that they suffer less but they still suffer from it and the only way to get rid of it is to have a trigger job done by someone like Angus.

http://czcustom.com/index.aspx
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The link I provider for the pistol in the thread was from CZ Custom.:) I just think its the best option in his price range. If he can find one used it would even leave some financial room for custom work.
 
I agree with that. They are a good gun if they fit your hand. They do not fit mine. The same thing can be said about the BHP if you are buying used. I have owned 5 or 7 BHPs in the past 4 years. I have never paid more then $600 for one before. And that was a gun which had been fully customized by Don at action works.

Again like I stated in another thread.

This gun was completely customized for less than $1100 including the cost of the base gun.

The work included novak nights, C&S hammer, sear, commander hammer, Wide trigger, extended slide, spegel grips and trigger job by a master gun smith.

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I have no problems buying used.
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Go to the shop and put them in your hand. Pull some triggers. You can find BHPs for less than $600 all the time if you are patient.
 
rellascout said:
Go to the shop and put them in your hand. Pull some triggers. You can find BHPs for less than $600 all the time if you are patient.
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Do this with a crap ton of guns. Hold ones that you don't want due to trigger action too. You will be surprised what you really like as opposed to what you thought you wanted.
 
rellascout said:
I agree with that. They are a good gun if they fit your hand. They do not fit mine. The same thing can be said about the BHP if you are buying used. I have owned 5 or 7 BHPs in the past 4 years. I have never paid more then $600 for one before. And that was a gun which had been fully customized by Don at action works.

Again like I stated in another thread.

This gun was completely customized for less than $1100 including the cost of the base gun.

The work included novak nights, C&S hammer, sear, commander hammer, Wide trigger, extended slide, spegel grips and trigger job by a master gun smith.

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Nice gun...I agree with the if it fits your hand part.
 
Care to talk about the trigger camming?
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Sure, my cz 75b SA came with a trigger job from the cz custom shop and has no trigger camming.

The same thing with my cz 75 omega.

Care to talk about the stock BHP with mag safety trigger?
 
You can find BHPs for less than $600 all the time if you are patient.
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You can find CZ 75's and its clones for less then $400 all the time.

I have nothing agains the HP, I just the CZ 75 is more refined and a better value.
 
Oh boy, I am going to get some popcorn.
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I am not trying to be controversial.

But I was limited to $900 dollars total spending to buy a NEW steel framed 9mm.

I could have a new BHP complete with hammer bite.

Or a CZ75bSA from the custom shop with better custom trigger, extend mag release, and better fiber optic target sights for the same amount of money.

JMO.

Or even pick EEA witness limited

Designed specifically for sport shooters competing in the IPSC limited class ,the Witness Elite "Limited" is one of the finest pistols ever produced by Tanfoglio. For nearly 20 years, the "Limited" has been the pistol of choice for many top shooters around the world. The current configuration "Limited" is the result of input and experience from "Team Tanfoglio", as well as shooters from around the globe. The "Limited" was also designed as an "open the box and shoot" pistol, providing all of the special features you need for that winning edge. Custom features include full length dust cover frame which is drilled and tapped for an optic mount, square trigger guard, single action trigger with over travel stop, checkered front and back strap, extended beavertail, funneled magazine well for speed reloading, custom shop safety, custom shop magazine release, hart hammer, interchangeable front sights, adjustable rear sight, polygonal rifled match grade barrel, checkered wood grips, and brushed chrome finish.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/manufacturers_id/198/products_id/60763
 
Philo_Beddoe said:
I am not trying to be controversial.

But I was limited to $900 dollars total spending to buy a NEW steel framed 9mm.

I could have a new BHP complete with hammer bite.

Or a CZ75bSA from the custom shop with better custom trigger, extend mag release, and better fiber optic target sights for the same amount of money.

JMO.

Or even pick EEA witness limited

Designed specifically for sport shooters competing in the IPSC limited class ,the Witness Elite "Limited" is one of the finest pistols ever produced by Tanfoglio. For nearly 20 years, the "Limited" has been the pistol of choice for many top shooters around the world. The current configuration "Limited" is the result of input and experience from "Team Tanfoglio", as well as shooters from around the globe. The "Limited" was also designed as an "open the box and shoot" pistol, providing all of the special features you need for that winning edge. Custom features include full length dust cover frame which is drilled and tapped for an optic mount, square trigger guard, single action trigger with over travel stop, checkered front and back strap, extended beavertail, funneled magazine well for speed reloading, custom shop safety, custom shop magazine release, hart hammer, interchangeable front sights, adjustable rear sight, polygonal rifled match grade barrel, checkered wood grips, and brushed chrome finish.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/manufacturers_id/198/products_id/60763
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Or the EAA Witness Match for 500ish. That said, saying it is more refined than a BHP is going to rile folks up.
 
If you are looking for a range only toy look at the Witness. They are big in the hand IMHO and would not carry on but as a range toy they are pretty slick and are cheap compared to other SA only guns.
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Do you feel that they offer an advantage over a CZ 75b SA? They are similar in price.

The only concern I have about the EAA line is EAA rep for customer service should something go wrong.

CZ is good on customer service.
 
The EEA triggers I have tried on the Elite Match pistols are very good. I did not notice camming the way I feel on most CZs. I think that they are somewhat underrated in the market place. Lots of people who have taken the plunge swear by them.

I agree. EEA does not have a stellar rep when it comes to customer service but I have not heard too many people sending them back in but they do not have a big market presence.

Again it would not be my first choice but for a range toy it might fit the bill. I don't own one and I am not lining up to get one but it seems to fit the criteria.
 
I have a SA Magnum Research (IMI) Baby Eagle in 9mm, a CZ-75 clone it is a fun gun, I am always surprised how fast, smooth and accurate it is especially after shooting .40 and .45. You may be able to find a used one (SA) for a fair price, but the newer ones are usually DA/SA. The CZ-75 is hard to beat, for price and performance.
 
The EEA triggers I have tried on the Elite Match pistols are very good. I did not notice camming the way I feel on most CZs. I think that they are somewhat underrated in the market place
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I have heard this to, I was just scared off by EAA customer service rep, preference for black/blued guns.
 
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