Are HK pistols worth the money?

Interesting poll, I've owned the H&K .45 auto, the new one that they intended for the joint service pistol trials.
It was a very problematic pistol, it's fit & finish were not emblematic of a $1,000.00 High end German firearm. Mine had a groove notched into the trigger guard, this to accomadate the trigger itself, problem was that under recoil it tended to pinch your trigger finger severely as on the reset your finger would be caught up between the two!

It was the most difficult auto I've ever owned to take down, a real PIA, I won't go into the details, it should suffice that if any of you own one you'll know just what I'm talking of, it was just ergonomically odd enough to prevent proper grasping for removal of the slide catch.

The pistol came with three grip inserts, none of which fit the pistol buttstock snugly, in fact they would shake about if you gently shook the pistol, further they would shift in your grip under recoil, which combined with the trigger groove, rendered my particular specimen very uncomfortable to fire, especially rapid fire!

Another thing that greatly annoyed me were the magazine feed lips, they were sharp, sharp enough to cut you if you weren't careful loading them. I was even able to get them to slice paper(like a pocket knife).

I obviously received a poor representation of the H&K work ethic, the proverbial "one that slipped" by if you will! However the worst was to come from the fine folks at H&K CS who were alarmingly nonchalant about the my whole experience, though they readily acknowleged the issue with the trigger groove being an issue that they were quite familiar with!

Everybody can churn out a bad one, however in this instance the pistol was so utterly unacceptable, with serious problems that were so clearly related to it's frame design that I found it profoundly overpriced and overrated....

Yes they are, and anyone who says they are not, has never owned one. I have a USPc in 357 sig and it is my only plastic gun. I have owned and shot many of these types of pistols and the only one I have hung onto is my HK.

Nothing about an H&K makes me want to spend 50-100% more than their competitor's price.

So I voted no. A person who spends more should get something for their money beyond the name on the side.


Also, I don't think having owned one or not is the question. "Have you had enough time behind it to offer an educated answer?" is the better question. I don't buy pistols I've never tried before, that would be foolish (unless it was cheap enough not to matter, which HKs aren't)

Yes they are, and anyone who says they are not, has never owned one. I have a USPc in 357 sig and it is my only plastic gun. I have owned and shot many of these types of pistols and the only one I have hung onto is my HK.

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I have owned a couple... Their overpriced in my opinion. I got good deals in the used market. New their ridiculous for something they just popped out of a mold.

Their used prices are good? I haven't seen if they're any better than their used competitors. I should go over to gunbroker, and check the prices over there.

My 1st weapon is a USP c. Beautiful tacti-cool gun. They are good deal in the used market. Paying full price.??? Too far from Glock.

Basically a used HK will get into the ballpark of a new [insert brand here].. 500-600bux on certain models.

JOe

If an HK is the gun you want and you shoot a lot it's worth it. Get the gun you really want, shoot it a lot, love it, keep it for years on end. They are reliable, durable, and accurate. More so than an M&P? I don't know, I own both and like them both a lot. The HK is worth it, my M&P's are just bargains! My Sig was even more costly but I'm just as happy to pay the asking price. Value is in the eye of the beholder.

pretty much depends on how much and how hard you shoot it. Sort of like the auto comparison:

transportation appliance: toyota *stone reliable, good features, fit and finish
drivers car: BMW *driving performance, have to experience it to know, and want it to appreciate it

Just a guess but most of the NO voters do not own an H&K pistol

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AND have never fired one, I would add to that statement - sounds more like yet another case of wealth envy by folks who can't afford them so they wonder why anyone would spend more that they would for a quality item - doesn't matter if it is guns, watches, cars, etc......

I see it all the time with the shotgun folks who think that anything except a 870 OR 500 is a waste and they can't understand what it's like to handle and shoot a fine double

For every person who meets that criteria, there is one of the opposite type who bought the HK just because it was more expensive and had some implied elite status.

I traded a Glock 35 straight for P2000SK

both shot, carried, and cared for equally.

i was looking for something smaller and he was looking for something bigger.

we both won.

for the money he paid for his HK he got something he wanted.

for the price of the glock i got something I wanted.

after shooting it for a few hundred rounds, I have to say that it is a nice carry piece and i would not mind a bit buying another hk

The two HK's I have had were no more then a Sig. Both have been very good.
Worth the money compared to others I would say yes !!

I voted "no" because it's not worth it to ME. However, if someone is willing to pay that price tag for the HK, then more power to them, it must be worth it to them.

They don't do anything a Glock can't do. Both companies are building their stuff with expensive, Western European labor. The USP (and derivatives) lockwork may be a little bit more expensive to produce than the Glock's striker fired system, but nowhere near enough to account for the price differential between the two.

My conclusion -- they're overpriced and not all that exciting.

If you trade them in for a Glock, XD or Sig you can usually do pretty well. I've owned 3 HK's and didn't like an of them. IMO they are highly overrated.

I voted yes, but the only H&K that I own currently is my P7 and it was worth every cent.

If we were to speak only of the polymer framed pistols, I would have to vote no. I have owned a USP 45 and a USP 45 Tactical. They were reliable and accurate shooters , but my Glock 21 could do everything they could and for under half the price.

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In a world of compromise, some don't.

No and I owned usp 45 to big and clunky feeling. However I had no trouble selling it.
HK Because you suck and we hate you! Just had to do it.

Have many. Every penny.

I have a Kimber Custom Defender II and have had a street reliability job done on it.Total cost of pistol, Crimson Trace Laser Grips, custom work, and Aker leather was $1400.00. A female police officer asked me if it was worth the money. I told her my a$$ was worth $1400.00 so,yes, it was worth it to me. If you H&K shooters thrust your a$$ to this brand, then yes, they are worth every penny.

i own a P7PSP and enjoy it, that being said, their guns are way overpriced, i shoot cheaper guns just as good or better

Gosh...

It's annoying to see these poll results so far, because I am certain that 99% of the people who voted NO either can't afford one, or simply don't believe in spending over $500 for ANY pistol.

Just haters IMO.

H&K pistols are most-definitely worth the money. Some may want me to "prove it," but I can say with absolute confidence that they make the most rock-solid, reliable pistols on the market today. Their quality control standards are so far beyond what other companies can achieve these days. I bet they have fewer lemons leave the factory than any other handgun manufacturer out there.

They are truly engineering marvels if you ask me. I have put thousands of rounds through mine without a single hiccup. They will shoot perfectly straight out of the box without any cleaning/lubing. I can't say the same for a brand new Glock 19 that was unreliable for me. Or my brothers Glock 26, or my XD45 that experienced FTF issues for the first 50 rounds or so before it broke in.

How can $800 be too much money for what is probably the best combat pistol being produced today? Is the extra $300 over what a Glock, XD, M&P, etc costs really significant if you plan to shoot the pistol that you plan on defending your life with? $300 will buy you 1000 rounds of .40s&w. If you actually shoot your pistol, 1000 rounds goes by very quickly. If you don't practice with your bargain-priced pistol, what good will it do you in a life or death situation?

I guess I'm just getting tired of the "What can an H&K do that my M&P can't?" type of questions, when there are people out there who feel that a $3000 1911 is worth it. Give me a break people!

If you haven't owned a USP, P2000, P30, HK45/c, etc. you really shouldn't have a say in whether or not H&Ks are over-priced. After literally owning at least one of every other brand's polymer pistol being produced today (including Glock, XD, M&P, Kahr, Walther, and most recently a Sig SP2022), I can say that H&Ks are definitely worth every penny.

And before all the Glock kool-aid drinkers show up to defend their weapon of choice, let's not forget who introduced the first polymer pistol. (This was in no way a bash on other guns, but in the end you usuall find out that you get what you pay for!)