Contrast Savage Vs CZ 22LR?

Go over to rimefirecentral. There few guys there that have savages that shoot as well as cz. Seems some new cz might not be as good as many older ones but that goes for savage too. I am very happy with my savage fv

Really love my 452....

Really happy with my Savage FVT. Got it used (fired on two occasions) for $200...shoots better than I can.

My savage mk I is great, woods not too nice, but it's as accurate as any other bolt action i've used, 3/8" at 50 yds and has the accutrigger so that's a plus.

I dont have a mkII, i have a 93r17, but the design and workmanship should be pretty similar. My rifle compared to a friends 453 have pretty much the same accuracy at short range The .17 generaly is more accurate then the .22 from what ive seen out beyond 50yds, so i cant realy say as a head to head test. Quality of parts and durability seem similar, but the cz has much finer fitment on most bits and pieces. I like the savages mag system better, but the CZ is fine. The Saftey took a bit of getting used to since they operate in oposite directions. Basicly my savage seemed a tad ruffer then the 453 but functioning was pretty much the same. Price for both rifles are similar id probobly still go with the savage just because i realy dont like the backwards saftey and unless im looking for a realy pretty gun, misfit botom metal and gaps here and there dont mater very much to me. The magazine being easy to drop free on the savage makes a differance imo also.

Jeff56, thank you for the kind words and reference to the match.

That statement sums up what I think of the two. Either is likely to serve you well, accuracy ranges from great to outstanding, reliability is also quite good, and if taken care of properly your grandchildren should be able to enjoy it as well. The biggest difference is the price and aesthetics. The best advice I can give is to handle, and if possible shoot, both...then let your experience (and wallet) decide.

I haven't shot the CZ but I do own a Savage MkII and feel no need to go looking for a more accurate 22, this one easily groups under an inch at 100 yards.

The accuracy of this little rifle has really amazed me, my first group with it at 25 yards had me confused. I kept shooting though and finally on the ninth shot I changed my point of aim and put a second hole in the target, the first 8 all went through the same one.

CZ makes some nice .22s but I will take a old savage any day.

savage mark II Vs. CZ 452

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I have a Savage MkII BV (heavy barrel and laminated wood stock) in 22LR and a CZ 452 varmint in 22WMR, with Weaver scopes on both.

Which one is better?

That's a question without a straightforward answer.

The Savage is a joy to shoot. Love that accutrigger.

The CZ is much more refined and an example of skilled craftsmanship. The woodwork and metal finishing is first class.

Both are accurate and trouble free.

The best thing for you to do would be to handle both at a local dealer, if possible. See which one fits better or appeals to you in terms of smooth action and placement of the controls. One might stand out over the other. For me - I'm glad I have both.

If I was wanting a rimfire to put a scope on, either the 452 or the Savage would be top contenders. If you want to shoot with irons, the CZ is the way to go. Personally, on a bolt action rimfire, I prefer a wood stock. CZ usually has very nice wooden stocks.

I have a Savage Mark II Classic and I prefer it's general appearance to the CZ 22's. I have a CZ too. I have no serious issues with either but I truly dislike the mauser type safety on the CZ. Both shoot very well. Most would be happy with either. You tend to have to mount the scope a bit higher on the CZ due to the bolt handle.

I picked up a Savage MkII last year, and I couldn't believe what a nice little gun it is for the money.
I've got nicer guns, and I'm sure the CZ is nicer, but the Savage is the most bang for the buck, IMO.

I have two older model Savages, in .22 cal. One is a bolt action repeater, the other is a semi-auto. Both were made in the very late forties/early fifties. Either will shoot 1" groups at 100yrds, given little wind conditions. Both seem to like Win., Rem., or CCI equally well. Models are M5, and M6 (auto). Have used a little of the Target stuff, but results were no better than the cheaper stuff. If I were to look at buying a new .22 today I would look first at Savage. sbs

Model for model, Savage MarkII BV and CZ 452, they should both be equal target models. I could not get the BV a month ago as do not make in left hand. I do like the 452 American as very nicely balanced with 6.5-20 Vortex Viper with 1 inch tall BKL rings.

One keeps its value, one does not

I think it really comes down to what you are looking for in a rifle. If all that matters is how the target looks at the end of the day, it's hard to go against the Savage for the money. I have a couple CZs and currently only have one Savage rimfire (though have had a couple in the past). They are two very different rifles.

The Savage line has a rougher fit and finish and are a clunkier cheaper looking rifle. They also cost less. Typically though, they shoot fairly close to what CZ shoots, some better and some worse. So if you want the bang for the buck, the Savage is the rifle to get.

The CZ, at least the 452's I've bought a few year back, are both built with more effort and care. They are designed to be a more rugged rifle and one that looks like it would be in the same shape shooting just as well in another 100+ years as it does today. I also lucked out and got myself a very good looking stock. The wood on CZ's are hit or miss and I had mine ordered in so I was expecting the worst and got the best. Still, even with plain wood they are a more classy looking rifle. That doesn't mean the shoot better. I feel they have a slight edge over Savage on average but are certainly in the range where a good sample from either brand would make the difference as to which is the better shooter. I paid a premium to have the nicer build, even if it didn't gain me accuracy. I find the sporter barreled CZ's shoot as well as their "varmint" model and make for great field rifles. I'm not as sold about carrying one of the heavy barreled Savage's in the field with a CZ American as an option as well. Most all of the Savage line shooting well are their heavy barrel options. I've seen all types of CZ rifles shoot practically the same.

So, different rifles, with different purposes, that both shoot well. Neither a bad choice. Pick the one that seems more appropriate. I would head to the local store, assume both will shoot equally for you, hold and handle them both, and then decide if paying for the build refinement is worth it. If not, enjoy the sin out of a Savage. If so, enjoy the sin out of a CZ.

I think benzy hit the nail squarely on the head. Perfect assessment.

Jeff, I have had a similar experience with my Stevens 87D "gill gun", it is a fine shooter for its age...or despite its age. Years ago I refinished the stock and replaced the cartridge guide spring, other than that it is all original. I have no doubt that it'll still be here long after i'm gone.

Thank you for the kind words, Jeff. Sometimes I don't see eye to eye with everyone but we are all cut from the same cloth and on the same side, condescension and discourteous behavior is best left for the ignorant.

the CZ is the best choice. mine consistently shoots half inch groups at 50 yards.

I was looking for a left handed bolt .22LR couple months ago and looked up the Savage Mark II - BV only to find no LH. I looked at other models as second choice and no LH. I was kind of disappointed. Second choice was CZ 452 American and had Left Hand which was a done deal. Weight of rifle I wanted was 6 -1/2 lbs max. I must say I really like the balance of the American with the 6-20 scope. Off hand cheek weld fits perfectly too with 1 inch tall scope rings. Savage's loss.

Jeff56. What (if any) work have you done to your savage to get it shooting that consistantly? What ammo does it prefer?

One of the easy/obvious differences between the CZ452 and the Savage BV is the location of the bolt handle.

The CZ bolt handle is located in the same place as centrefire bolt guns. That made it a better trainer for my purposes than the Savage BV, which has a bolt handle much further forward.

The far-forward bolt handle is a common feature of many .22LR bolt rifles, since the cartridge is very short.