CZ75B or Sig226 ?

I don't have much experience with the CZ other than holding it in the store, but I found that the Sig fits my hand better. I also prefer the Sig trigger, though that could be just the fact that I've had time to break in my trigger as opposed to the store demo gun with a trigger straight from the factory. My Sig (a 228 as opposed to the 226, though I'm in the market for a 226 right now...) is very accurate and has never missed a beat. You can't go wrong with a 226.

If price is possibly a deal breaker for you, you might want to look into a slightly used Sig. There are some good deals if you can find them. For example, I bought my LNIB almost unfired (except for maybe 10 rounds) 228 for $500. Granted, that was a pretty good deal, at least in my book, but it shows you what you can find if you really look for a deal.

I'm sure some CZ fans will be here shortly, I'm also looking forward to their take on the CZ vs Sig decision.





also.... if you're ever gona suppress the gun, Sigs tend to shoot just a tad bit quieter than other guns

CZ's are good guns, but so are Sigs, I prefer the CZ. For the price of a new plain jane sig 226, you can get a plain jane cz 75b and have $300 for ammo, holsters and spare mags.

If you want an upgraded cz you can get their competition model shadow for just $100 more then a plain 226 and it will have a much nicer trigger, sights and comes with 3 mags.

I think I'd join you on the 226. I have the CZ 75B, but prefer the 226.

I own both in 9mm and I can honestly say, that I prefer the Sig. The difference in price may be a big factor but if you can swing the Sig, do it.

The big question is do you want a safety or not? The pistols are comparable - I have owned many SIG's, (several 225's, numerous 220's, but never a 226) and consider them fine pistols. I still own CZ's. The SIG will have a smoother trigger than current CZ's. The single action will be more or less the same between them.

But, the CZ has a safety while the SIG does not. Yeah, they both have firing pin blocks, but the SIG has a decocker instead of a safety. On the flip side, the only way to lower the hammer on a CZ (unless you get a decocker version) is to do it manually. Some guys find that a bit scary, but I've always been fine with it.

More recently, SIG has begun to have some quality issues, but I doubt that will be a problem. The CZ will be significantly cheaper. You will save hundreds of dollars on the CZ. I suppose you could think of it as the SIG with an extra magazine or the CZ with 4 extra magazines and a first rate holster and several boxes of ammo.

CZ has both manual safety and decocking versions of its pistols as well as all steel, lightweight alloy, and polymer framed offerings. You need to hold and shoot a CZ. For me, they are the best fitting gun of just about anything, but YMMV. They are also very accurate, and reliable with great support.

I have Sigs also, well I am down to one now, a P228 that has virtually sat in the safe since I got my CZ-75D PCR in 2000. That will probably get sold in favor of a new CZ SP-01 or similar.

I've had (and have) variants of both.

I prefer the CZ, and don't particularly like the P-226. I do like other SIGs.

I currently have a well-gunsmithed P-228 (GreyGuns did the work) that I like a lot, and much prefer to any 226 I've owned. I've had three 226s (2x9mm and 1x .40), and they just didn't talk to me. I have shooting buddies who swear by them. I've also got several CZs, and two CZ clones. The CZs and clones, along with the P-228, are among the best shooting guns I've got: a custom AT-84s and a Sphinx. (I also have a sweet S&W M&P Pro, also with work done to it, that is right there with them -- and that's an option, too. Great gun.)

If you get a chance, try to shoot both -- using rentals, or borrow from a friend -- and decide based on how the guns fit you and work for you. The extra time and money will be worth it, 'cause what works for someone else (and suggested here) may not work for you.

Note: the SIG will probably have the better trigger at first, if bought new -- but the CZ triggers will improve with use.

Option: buy directly from the CZ Custom Shop, and have them do the action/trigger work before they deliver to an FFL near you. It'll still be cheaper than a new SIG 226.

In CZ pistols, a little closer comparison to the P226 would be the 75BD, which has a frame mounted decocking lever. Personally, provided thin grips are installed, the CZ fits my hands better.

Sig is the better gun hands down.

I think so, too.
But I can hit better with the CZ; a "pre-B" with mild trigger job and big bold sights versus a P226 with everything GGI could do to it allowable for IDPA.

Can only talk for me.

I tried both and chose the CZ. I now have 3 and dont reget it. YMMV

I have both and much prefer the CZ75 because I hate DA/SA operation. The P226 was one of my first handguns, before I leaned DA/SA doesn't work well for me.

At current prices I also feel the CZ75 is more gun for your money.

Sig is the better gun hands down.

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Based on what, that it costs a lot more? I've got them both and they shoot equally for me in single action. I don't like throwing away the first shot with the DA/SA P226, but the CZ75 can do DA/SA if that is what you really want.

I'm going to assume that both are comfortable in your hand. Under that premise why would you pay twice as much for the Sig?

The Sig is no more accurate than the CZ.

The Sig is no more reliable than the CZ.

The Sig's design is not any better that the CZ's.

The Sig does not have any more replacement parts available than the CZ.

The Sig is no easier to maintain or clean than the CZ.

With the extra 2000 rounds that you'll get with the CZ , you will enjoy the handgun more & you'll be a heck of a lot more proficient with it.

triplebike,
Very well put and true.

I don't care for the Sig's high bore axis. Had a 220 for a while, couldn't warm up to it. My CZ has endured many handgun buy/sell cycles, still here after about a dozen.

I have both and much prefer the CZ75 because I hate DA/SA operation. The P226 was one of my first handguns, before I leaned DA/SA doesn't work well for me.

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The CZ 75 is a DA/SA gun. Unless you have the SA version.

The CZ 75 is a DA/SA gun. Unless you have the SA version.

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If you have a "safety" model (rather than one with a decocker), you can carry cocked and locked, just like the 75B SA, with the same result. The DA mode is there, but you don't have to use it, unless you want a second-strike capability after a bad round. (You can also carry and start from the half-cock notch -- which is where the decocker models start -- as safely. It shortens and lightens the trigger slightly.)

The 75B SA version gives you larger, ambi safeties, and depending on the trigger installed, over-travel and take-up adjustments, too.


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A few years ago I bought a CZ 75 just becuse I liked the CZ rifle I bought. I took it to the range, those there had not heard of it, most scoffed, wrote it off as just another cheap gun.

When I left, they all thought the groups at 25 yards were amazing. Several wanted to try it. I can't imagine you would be disappointed with a CZ.
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From my understanding a guy named Ron Cohen screwed up Kimbers QC, and he is now doing the same at SIG as he is there CEO. That's what I've been told anyway.

CZ 75 are great guns. They're like firing a Cadillac. They're smooth, accurate, reliable, and priced better than their competition. You can spend P226 money on a CZ 75 from CZ Custom, and you get a gun that will blow it out the water. Even Jeff Cooper was a fan of the CZ 75.

It's a little more than a new SIG, but I would love one of the CZ 75 Shadow Duo Tones from CZ Custom. It is a very attractive gun IMO.
http://czcustom.com/cz75shadowsadaduo.aspx

I have an West German SIG P226 and a CZ-40B so this is not a true apples to apples comparison. The 40B is sort of a cross between the CZ-75 (most CZ75 internal parts interchange w/ the 40B), but wrapped up in a 1911 shape. The 40B's trigger when new was very good, but after a few hundred rounds is became as good as my P226. While I love my old SIG, if I were buying new I would get a CZ.

I have two 9MM SIG P226s and I much prefer them to the CZs I have tried. I can shoot the P226 better than any other pistol I have ever tried. The trigger on all my SIGS are dang sweet. SIGs and Walthers are my firearms of choice though I do also own a Glock 19 .

My son has a CZ SP01 and it has about 1000 rounds through it and the trigger is horrible compared to ANY of my SIGs. SA feels like gravel in the action!! He has had a few reliability problems with his SP01 but I think that is worked out now since he went past 500 rounds. I have NEVER EVER had any sort of problem with any of my SIGs. Fit and finish on a CZ does not compare to any of my SIGs either but that may not be a consideration for many as long as the pistol otherwise works for the user.

So for me the P226 is well worth the extra money. BTW my stainless steel slide P226 was a CPO that I bought for $500 and it looked as new inside and out. There are CPOs and a lot of great used SIGs on the market so you don't have to pay a lot for one if that is a consideration.

Also I don't want a manual safety on my DA/SA pistol !!

While it good to ask opinions in the end one has to try out what they are considering and then choose what works best for them. But for me it is the P226.

JROC said:

From my understanding a guy named Ron Cohen screwed up Kimbers QC, and he is now doing the same at SIG as he is there CEO. That's what I've been told anyway. [/url]

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Don't believe what you have been "told". There are a few forum members on another popular brand specific forum that like to spout that off all the time for whatever reason which I mainly believe is that they are sour all new SIGs are not made in Germany. With very few exceptions new purchases of SIGs on said forum, including myself, are loving their new SIGs. The extremely few complaints that pop up are usually about a cosmetic issue such as the inside of the slide missing a spot of finish.

SIGs come with a LIFETIME warranty.

For the money its hard to beat a CZ. I've never shot a sig, but the only one I would buy would be a 2022 due to price. I'm sure they are great guns, but I'm not paying that much for them.

I'd pick the CZ, some mec gar mags, and some ammo.

triplebike said:

I'm going to assume that both are comfortable in your hand. Under that premise why would you pay twice as much for the Sig?

The Sig is no more accurate than the CZ.

The Sig is no more reliable than the CZ.

The Sig's design is not any better that the CZ's.

The Sig does not have any more replacement parts available than the CZ.

The Sig is no easier to maintain or clean than the CZ.

With the extra 2000 rounds that you'll get with the CZ , you will enjoy the handgun more & you'll be a heck of a lot more proficient with it.

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Pay twice as much - NO WAY!! At my LGS you can get a new SIG P226 for about $225 more than a new CZ 75. CPO P226s with warranty are LESS.

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SIG has better fit and finish than CZ.

SIG has better trigger than CZ.

SIG has better warranty than CZ.

Now that may not matter to some but to some it will and they are willing to pay for it.

Again each has to decide for himself or herself what will work best for them for their investment.

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Pay twice as much - NO WAY!! At my LGS you can get a new SIG P226 for about $225 more than a new CZ 75. CPO P226s with warranty are LESS.

Oh you forgot --

SIG has better fit and finish than CZ.

SIG has better trigger than CZ.

SIG has better warranty than CZ.

Now that may not matter to some but to some it will and they are willing to pay for it.

Again each has to decide for himself or herself what will work best for them for their investment.

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MSRP of the CZ is $499. MSRP of the Sig P226 is $938

Slightly better finish. I beg to differ on the fit.

Yes Sig does have a better trigger out of the box, but the CZ's smooth out nicely after a few hundred rds.

Highpoint has the best warranty of anybody, company means more than the warranty.

Both CZ & Sig are both highly regarded firearms manufacturers & stand behind their product.

The CZ is by far a better value.